Decision to sell?

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Originally Posted by GregsMoko

Hey slim noticed you like talking alot, so here's some advice, when something is a family decision that means a whole family makes it!!! So when this was discussed, my kids and wifes imput may mean more than just how I feel! So go blather your crap to someone else if you don't mind!!! Oh in case you don't quite understand "FAMILY" , it usually means not being narrow minded like you. Twit:mad:

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Must have hit a nerve. Exactly where I was aiming. These are not throw away toys. Calling it a heart wrenching decision, does not change that fact. Reach down, sack up and live up to the responsibility you took on when you brought this animal home.

Or, sell it and move on...that's a great lesson to teach your FAMILY.

And, this should go without saying, but if you bring this issue to a public forum, especially after your previous glowing comments about this animal, did you really expect not to get some negative feed back? What was that sound? Was that a bubble bursting?

My first is also a normal male. He was sold/adopted to me as a female, but turned out to be a male. I have thought about rehoming him (not selling, I don't think he's worth a whole lot), but I really do love his personality, and my husband really likes him (he's not all morph crazy like me, he just likes the snake). I think I will just keep him, I'd hate for him to end up in neglectful hands, and at least I know he's safe with me. I intend to build a reptile room in my unfinished basement at some point and build a larger rack (I have a teeny 3 bin "rack" now as well as a few tanks), so he'll just be one of my non-breeding pets. He's larger than yours (1000g), and doesn't eat very much anymore anyway.

^^^ This same exact thing happened to me as well. My first snake I bought ,while I was very inexperienced with snakes and morphs, was supposed to be a yellow belly female snake, turned out to be a normal male. It has totally devastated my breeding plans but I still love my sweet normal boy whose name will stay Eva forever. Now he's my educational animal that I use to introduce new people that have never seen or held a snake. He so sweet and calm he always gets people to think twice about how snakes are portrayed. Breeding won't go out of style anytime soon so you still have plenty of time to get the snake you need to get started. I'm just going to take my time and make everything right and perfect and things should fall into place :)


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if you really want to breed, and recombine genes and work on projects, you will need quite a lot of BPs. and between all these BPs, it should be easy enough to just keep your first pet BP and your second pet BP. breeders of all sizes most often also have a few mascots, or some BPs they just keep as a pet, and they often keep other species as pets.

and if you are limited to two BPs, and have another breeder that will take all the hatchlings wholesale, well, its difficult to improve in these circumstances. so you might as well just keep the ones you have, and pair them for an occasional clutch of eggs. with two BPs, i dont see much need to rehome one and replace it with another one. i hope that doesnt sound rude, but with or without replacing/upgrading the two BPs you have, with just one female breeder you are not going to get far anyway.

the real problem seems to be that you are limited to two BPs maximum. you want to breed, with that constraint, and so you think replacing the male with a genetically more powerful one will do the trick. but the problem is not the male, the problem is that you are limited to a maximum of one clutch per season. from that perspective, replacing the BP you and your family know best and are most attached to, just to improve the genetics of that potential one clutch per year, seems futile.

of course its your decision. and dont care too much what other people here may say, dont let it get to you. but you cannot turn a small rowing boat into a yacht by attaching some sails. whats really in the way of your dream of being a BP breeder is not the BPs you currently have, its the limitation to two BPs.

i hope that helps.

I gotta say, I agree with Slim and Pythonfriend on this one.My first ball was a male that I purchased for my 16th birthday, 7 years later and I still have him. He may be just a normal but I will NEVER sell him because he is my boy, he was the one that started it all. I may not have any breeding projects with him, and he won’t be making me 1000’s of dollars with the babies he produces but I don’t care.

Coming from another person with aspirations to be a breeder, you should really invest in a rack system instead of having them each in tanks. Not only is it a huge space saver (which I’m very limited to), but it’s healthier for them too.

I have a normal I will never get rid of just because she's what got me back in BP's. Even if I decide to breed someday I will never breed her since she was a Craigslist rescue and I have no idea how old she is etc. If you're worried about space get or build a rack. Mine are all in tanks right now and I'm soon going to be switching to a rack system. I don't think rehoming your BP is the answer if the only considerations are space. There are better ways to go about conserving the space you have.

I have a pinstripe male who is my first ball python. I don't really plan on ever breeding him (I'll have that gene in a three combo male in the future). He'll spend the rest of his life round and happy with me though. He's the one that gave me that spark and passion. I may eventually do a breeding with a two/three gene female in the future just to keep a female from him to carry on his legacy in my heart I guess.

My orginal normal is 17 years old. Im confidant she will make it to at least 25 no problem. She has been with me most of my childhood and my whole adult life. This is the kind of comitment these animals are.

If you're seriously considering getting rid of your first snake then maybe you should. These are animals that deserve loving owners who are willing to commit decades to caring for them. But do us all a favor and dont get any more. These animals deserve better. We may talk about "collecting" them like their stamps or something, but the reality is that they are living creatures that deserve compassion and respect, not something you can toss aside when you get bored or something "cooler" comes along

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