Super Specter VS Super Stipe

Ladybugzcrunch, you seem to think that its easy to differentiate between a specter and a yellowbelly, and that the difficult part is differentiating between a specter and a normal.

i think the problem is a bit different. i think its easy to differentiate between a yellowbelly and a normal, and its also easy to differentiate between a specter and a normal. the hard part is to differentiate between a yellowbelly and a specter.

i think when you have a clutch that is 50% specter het albino and 50% normal het albino, it will be easy to pick out the specters. specters have that broken-up chaotic pattern near the belly, and some flames coming uo from the belly, just like yellowbelly. so in your second option, when you have a mix of specter het albino and yellowbelly het albino, that may be difficult, you might get some hatchlings where you cannot tell if its a specter or a yellowbelly.


but i would like to hear what others think.

I think you would have to be dealing with a very poor quality line of yellow belly to have trouble figuring out which is which. all the specters I have seen look nothing like even a decent quality yellow belly. even the ones I have seen with a little better flaming like a yellowbelly are just not the same color in the alien heads or the pattern. add in the other subtle differences and I don't think you would have trouble sorting the clutch.

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

" its also easy to differentiate between a specter and a normal. the hard part is to differentiate between a yellowbelly and a specter. "

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This is just one of the posts that contradicts your quote above

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-from-a-Normal

From my research, specters are nearly indistinguishable from normals and only a very keen eye that has held many a specter can pick them out of a clutch of normals. Yellowbellys look very different from normals which would also give reason to assume that they look nothing like specters that look like normals.

my Yellow Belly stuff to make YB combos, and my trio of Spectres together to make Super Spectres.

Dave

i was browsing a german breeder and found something that reminded me of this.

he has excellent belly shots of all his BPs.

specter:
http://www.ms-reptilien.de/tierbesta...n-regius?c=849

http://www.ms-reptilien.de/tierbesta...n-regius?c=849

http://www.ms-reptilien.de/media/ima...8e_720x600.jpg

yellowbelly:
http://www.ms-reptilien.de/tierbesta...n-regius?c=501

http://www.ms-reptilien.de/media/ima...uf_720x600.jpg

and he even has a possible specter / possible yellowbelly, he is not sure, which is the problem i pointed out:
http://www.ms-reptilien.de/tierbesta...n-regius?c=849

http://www.ms-reptilien.de/media/ima...uf_720x600.jpg

i only included a few belly shots, follow the links for a top view and for more examples. he has several of each on his website, with top view and belly view for each one.


it seems like in most cases its possible to tell if its specter, yellowbelly, or normal. with some difficult cases walking the line between specter and yellowbelly, or between specter and normal.

I remember back when the first Superstripes were produce it was from a Yb to what the breeder thought was a reall low quality CH Yb and POP out comes the Super stripe. I've seen a few spectors that seem to hav YB type traits be I'd be hard pressed to pick spectors out of a box of normals and that just because I have very VERY VERY limited experience with them.