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  • 03-03-2014, 06:23 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Why is it so frustrating? We over feed them vs the wild anyway. I use to get all bent out of shape about this but then I learned that this is just the way they are sometimes.

    Balls are definitely being over fed in captivity. I noticed a long to time ago if I cut back on feedings after they get a few hundred grams most never hit the 1,000 gram wall or go off feed at any point.

    I also rarely have a breeder male go off feed because I don't pound them either.

    I do have a few picky eaters that don't eat consistently no matter how much or little I offer. These are usually Mousers or African Rat eaters though.


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  • 03-03-2014, 06:42 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    Balls are definitely being over fed in captivity. I noticed a long to time ago if I cut back on feedings after they get a few hundred grams most never hit the 1,000 gram wall or go off feed at any point.

    I also rarely have a breeder male go off feed because I don't pound them either.

    I do have a few picky eaters that don't eat consistently no matter how much or little I offer. These are usually Mousers or African Rat eaters though.


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    The thing about cutting back on feedings I've noticed too. It might mean that females don't grow as quickly but it also means that you dont have to fight with animals being picky for a year or more.
  • 03-03-2014, 08:10 PM
    AlexisFitzy
    ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Them not eating isn't the frustrating part, if you feed f/t and you have to waste feeders that's the frustrating thing lol. :) just sayin :p

    Not frustrating for the live feeder people I guess haha.

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  • 03-03-2014, 08:20 PM
    OsirisRa32
    Re: ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy View Post
    Them not eating isn't the frustrating part, if you feed f/t and you have to waste feeders that's the frustrating thing lol. :) just sayin :p

    Not frustrating for the live feeder people I guess haha.

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    F/t is cheaper which is what Ive switched to now....very frustrating when you waste a feeder...I will only refreeze a rat/mouse once after thawing them out.
  • 03-03-2014, 08:23 PM
    bcr229
    I feel your pain! Yesterday my breeding Mohave male that hadn't eaten since last December finally broke his fast so I was feeling pretty good, then today one of my younger garters refused. I was like... SERIOUSLY? Is there something in the water? Or are they collaborating to drive me nuts?

    And if you're refreezing feeders give it to a boa on the second go-round. Less likely it will be thrown away!
  • 03-03-2014, 08:28 PM
    AlexisFitzy
    Re: ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OsirisRa32 View Post
    F/t is cheaper which is what Ive switched to now....very frustrating when you waste a feeder...I will only refreeze a rat/mouse once after thawing them out.

    Exactly! That's what I thought the case was. F/t is cheaper for me as well. Can't raise a colony where I live, and live is even harder to find in my area. So f/t is best for me. It is very annoying/frustrating having to waste the feeders. I totally understand what you mean :) ugh can't wait for it to warm up and have them eating again.


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  • 03-03-2014, 08:41 PM
    OsirisRa32
    Re: ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    I feel your pain! Yesterday my breeding Mohave male that hadn't eaten since last December finally broke his fast so I was feeling pretty good, then today one of my younger garters refused. I was like... SERIOUSLY? Is there something in the water? Or are they collaborating to drive me nuts?

    And if you're refreezing feeders give it to a boa on the second go-round. Less likely it will be thrown away!

    Dont own a boa...other than my dumerils which is being hand fed by a friend of mine and is the smallest of my snakes.
  • 03-03-2014, 09:22 PM
    dr del
    Re: ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Heh heh,

    Wait till you are breeding them.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy View Post
    Them not eating isn't the frustrating part, if you feed f/t and you have to waste feeders that's the frustrating thing lol. :) just sayin :p

    Not frustrating for the live feeder people I guess haha.

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    I started staggering my feedings years ago - hardly ever have to waste food anymore.

    If you have 10 to feed but suspect 3 may not eat then only defrost 7 and offer to the possible non-eaters first from least likely to eat to most likely.

    Then if they all stun you by eating defrost some for the three you were sure would feed no problems the day before.

    Important note Do not do this between animals in your main collection and those in quarantine.

    Saved me a fortune in food.


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  • 03-03-2014, 09:51 PM
    bcr229
    Re: ARRRRRRGGGGg!!!!! So frustrating some times!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OsirisRa32 View Post
    Dont own a boa...other than my dumerils which is being hand fed by a friend of mine and is the smallest of my snakes.

    Well if my stupid elected officials pass the "dangerous wild animals" bill I may have to send you mine because every boa species is on the list. :(
  • 03-03-2014, 09:54 PM
    Doggey75
    What would be a major weight lose for a BP?
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