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At almost 200 grams he will easily take rat pups. I have one about the same size that was on mice when I got him and, like yours, would have nothing to do with rats. I feed F/T so I warmed up a pup in hot tap water for about 10 minutes, then hit it with a hair drier for another minute or so. With the room darkened I then placed it inside the hide with my BP. I left the tail sticking out so I could tell if my snake showed any interest. Came back about 10 minutes later and the tail was not in sight (a good sign). I left him alone for another 45 minutes. Lifted the lid and found a pleasantly plump ball python.

If he won't eat it right away leave it in the hide overnight. If it is still there in the morning dispose of it.

Good luck!

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Considering his weight he is not ready for 2 adult mice per feed. Whom ever told you that is misinformed. I do think there is value in getting him onto rats though. I would try frozen thawed or freshly killed mice first, then once he will take dead prey, make the mouse to rat transition. I rescued a year old 150g male bp. He was severely underfed. It has been 6 months and he is just over 1000g. They do make up lost time when given the opportunity. To give you an idea of a well fed female, I have one born early August which I brought home in September and she is now almost 800g.

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That snake could easily eat 2 of the mice I typically see at Petco/Petsmart...

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That snake could easily eat 2 of the mice I typically see at Petco/Petsmart...

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The adult mice I got from Petsmart were 30g on my scale. 30g is plenty big for a barely 200g BP. BTW I didn't buy them but they were given to me with my first BP. I switched him to a weaned rat of the same weight within a feed, by scenting.

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The adult mice I got from Petsmart were 30g on my scale. 30g is plenty big for a barely 200g BP. BTW I didn't buy them but they were given to me with my first BP. I switched him to a weaned rat of the same weight within a feed, by scenting.

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I've never weighed them but they're pretty puny...that's at Petco. The Petsmart here doesn't sell "feeder" mice so they charge an absurd amount for their "pet" mice...:rolleyes:

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Considering his weight he is not ready for 2 adult mice per feed. Whom ever told you that is misinformed. I do think there is value in getting him onto rats though. I would try frozen thawed or freshly killed mice first, then once he will take dead prey, make the mouse to rat transition. I rescued a year old 150g male bp. He was severely underfed. It has been 6 months and he is just over 1000g. They do make up lost time when given the opportunity. To give you an idea of a well fed female, I have one born early August which I brought home in September and she is now almost 800g.

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Awsome thanx for all the info im actually glad he did not take the rat we woke up this morning and weng to check on the rat and it was dead and there was diareah all through the cage called the store we got him from and she said they found 7 dead this morning so whoever they got the shipment from yesterday sent them exstremly sick rats so glad he dident take him and get sick

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I've never weighed them but they're pretty puny...that's at Petco. The Petsmart here doesn't sell "feeder" mice so they charge an absurd amount for their "pet" mice...:rolleyes:

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The one we got last night was 24 grams so they are actually a good size but gana try to feedhim the other one we bought in the next day or so see if he will take it if he does im gana start feeding him every 4 to 5 days

Just a quick comment, never EVER leave a live mouse in an enclosure with a snake overnight. The poster who suggested that was speaking of already dead prey. You're lucky that your snake didn't get chewed on by the mouse, so next time you attempt to feed, keep an eye on your snake instead of leaving it in overnight.

My normal, Matilda, is right at 160 g and eats one large mouse per week. I can't imagine trying to feed her a rat at this point. I honestly would think that you are feeding yours just fine. I know my other bp is only 70g and we have been feeding him every 5 days. You can try that if you think your bp is too thin.

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My normal, Matilda, is right at 160 g and eats one large mouse per week. I can't imagine trying to feed her a rat at this point. I honestly would think that you are feeding yours just fine. I know my other bp is only 70g and we have been feeding him every 5 days. You can try that if you think your bp is too thin.

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Rats don't just come in one size...a weaned rat is about the same size as a large mouse....hatchling bp's can be started on rats (pups)...people usually just start them out on mice because they hop around and apparently are more appetizing...:D

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Just a quick comment, never EVER leave a live mouse in an enclosure with a snake overnight. The poster who suggested that was speaking of already dead prey. You're lucky that your snake didn't get chewed on by the mouse, so next time you attempt to feed, keep an eye on your snake instead of leaving it in overnight.

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I never leave anything in the enclosure with my snake I have a empty 10 gallon I feed him in I took my bp out pit him back in his enclosure and put the rat in the empty tank