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Crazy Albino _ 2013

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  • 01-14-2014, 09:13 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    That 13113 female is a SMOKING girl:gj::gj:

    13105 male does have a funky look to him.
    I would say that it would be well worth holding him back and breeding to mom just to see what happens.
    My curiosity is why have the two only been male?
    Maybe its just too early for me but it looks like its reducing the amount of white on the albino.
    I know it looks familiar to me but I cant remember where I saw something like this.

    This was my first though, though I know an Orange Dream is not recessive.
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-orange-dream/
  • 01-14-2014, 11:29 AM
    MarkS
    I like that orange dream idea. Looks fairly similar to me.

    Couple of questions. Are the parents related? I'm assuming yes since you stated that the originals were hets imported from Professional breeders. Interesting side note. Many years ago when there was a rash of 'paradox albinos' being hatched and nobody really could figure out what was going on. It was discovered that all of the paradox animals (at that time) could be traced back to founding animals bought from professional breeders. I'm not sure that has anything to do with this, I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia. Next question, how many total hatchlings have been produced by this pair of albinos? I'm just wondering what the percentage of normal albinos to crazy albinos is. Probably too small of a sample size to infer whether or not this is a hidden recessive trait but it might be worth thinking about.
  • 01-14-2014, 08:42 PM
    Badgemash
    I LOVE the 2011 edition, that blushing is so bizarre! Is there any chance of getting a grown-up pic of him?
  • 01-14-2014, 10:09 PM
    Ladybugzcrunch
  • 01-14-2014, 10:20 PM
    bigt0006
    Re: Crazy Albino _ 2013
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ladybugzcrunch View Post

    Wow i saw tiger and automatically though desert enchi albino but am albino tiger is completly different genetics. So what would and albino tiger (desert,enchi) be called

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  • 01-14-2014, 10:52 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Crazy Albino _ 2013
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    Originally Posted by Ladybugzcrunch View Post

    Not familiar with the tigers but I can see that one too.
  • 01-15-2014, 01:51 AM
    RandyRemington
    Sorry, I got it backwards. Black in a normal is white in an albino and the yellow in an albino is the area between the black. So the non albino version of this would have a very reduced black pattern (not the expanded black pattern of a chocolate). Maybe it's some sort of recessive reduced pattern mutation (assuming you consider the back in a normal to be the pattern, apparently some people consider the lighter colors in a normal to be the pattern).
  • 01-15-2014, 09:53 AM
    Lexcorn
    Re: Crazy Albino _ 2013
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    I'm working on a chocolate albino project that I hope might look something like that. Maybe also breed the male to a chocolate or at least some non albino to see if you can pick out some increasing black gene.

    Good thinkin'............

    And with that I reviewed 'Hold Back' progeny that has been sired by the same Albino male that produced the two 'Crazy Albino'.

    I present my findings later in this thread.

    Regards. Lex
  • 01-15-2014, 09:58 AM
    Lexcorn
    Re: Crazy Albino _ 2013
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    That 13113 female is a SMOKING girl:gj::gj:

    13105 male does have a funky look to him.
    I would say that it would be well worth holding him back and breeding to mom just to see what happens.
    My curiosity is why have the two only been male?
    Maybe its just too early for me but it looks like its reducing the amount of white on the albino.
    I know it looks familiar to me but I cant remember where I saw something like this.

    This was my first though, though I know an Orange Dream is not recessive.
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-orange-dream/

    Yup, Orange Dream does look like it's worthy of consideration as the Sire always presented with a clean Lemon vis-a-vis white as opposed to the more 'banana' yellow of the female.

    No, not THE Banana just the colouration of the good old foodstuff ;)

    Thanks for your good comments on Female 13113 - she is rather a looker.

    Lex
  • 01-15-2014, 10:37 AM
    Lexcorn
    Re: Crazy Albino _ 2013
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    I like that orange dream idea. Looks fairly similar to me.

    Couple of questions. Are the parents related? I'm assuming yes since you stated that the originals were hets imported from Professional breeders. Interesting side note. Many years ago when there was a rash of 'paradox albinos' being hatched and nobody really could figure out what was going on. It was discovered that all of the paradox animals (at that time) could be traced back to founding animals bought from professional breeders. I'm not sure that has anything to do with this, I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia. Next question, how many total hatchlings have been produced by this pair of albinos? I'm just wondering what the percentage of normal albinos to crazy albinos is. Probably too small of a sample size to infer whether or not this is a hidden recessive trait but it might be worth thinking about.

    Thanks for that interesting feedback on the Paradox Albino.

    I do have such a gal, however, I did not breed her myself but rather a good friend did some years back - the lineage is from Jeremy Stone.

    A great animal to own, but, she's only topping 1200 gram @ over 5 years of age, therefore, I wonder if she will ever make breeding size.

    I did respond to your questions & listed the limited number of progeny that the Albino male has produced. However, the Forum (in it's wisdom) logged me out & I'm not going over it again!

    Therefore, I shall say that I am pretty much convinced that 'Ladybugzcrunch' has suggested the true nature of the beast & I shall provide my reasons for you to dissect :D

    Lex
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