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  • 12-28-2013, 01:43 PM
    adamfritzsche
    Re: BP needs medical attention!
    Just got back from the vet. Took some x-rays and determined that it is osteomyelitis in the spine, and the swelling from this is pushing outward on that rib. Good news is some antibiotics should treat the infection and she should live a full and happy life. Bad news is the damage to this point has been done and is not exactly reversible therefore she will not be a breeder, which is fine since I had already come to that conclusion when I thought it was a kink.
  • 12-28-2013, 01:51 PM
    Archimedes
    What a unique situation. Did the doc say the swelling would go down at all, or will she just have the hula hoop for the rest of her life?
  • 12-28-2013, 03:18 PM
    patientz3ro
    Re: BP needs medical attention!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamfritzsche View Post
    Just got back from the vet. Took some x-rays and determined that it is osteomyelitis in the spine, and the swelling from this is pushing outward on that rib. Good news is some antibiotics should treat the infection and she should live a full and happy life. Bad news is the damage to this point has been done and is not exactly reversible therefore she will not be a breeder, which is fine since I had already come to that conclusion when I thought it was a kink.

    What kind of damage are we talking about, exactly? Osteomyelitis is just an infection. Granted, it's a serious infection that can be lethal, but I've never heard of it doing any damage genetically. Assuming that's the kind of damage you're concerned about, I don't know that I'd give up on breeding her completely. If I were in your shoes, I would consider going ahead and breeding her once the infection clears up and she's ready to breed otherwise. By all means, have a back up plan, but I'd say breed her, hold back one or two hatchlings, and sell the rest. Obviously at a lower $ and will full disclosure of moms illness, but I don't think it would be an issue, long term. I would also put her in strict qt until I had some idea as to the sourse of infection.

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  • 12-29-2013, 03:42 PM
    Thalasuchus
    I know I'm really new here but I thought I'd chime in just because I have a little bit of experience in this... I had a Chinese water dragon with osteomyelitis in his lower jaw. It can be a serious infection but once it's treated with antibiotics and the infection is gone, I agree your BP might still have that swelling around her ribs. My CWD still had lumps on his jaw long after the infection was taken care of. My vet said it was calcified scar tissue.
    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps7368a125.png
    I would second getting a culture done because it took forever to get the right antibiotics for Jazz ^ here and he suffered long for it.

    Don't take my word for it because I have basically zero experience but I wouldn't put stress on her by breeding her when she has had an injury like that, regardless on whether or not it's genetic. I wouldn't want to risk her carrying eggs, myself.
  • 12-29-2013, 05:57 PM
    Xtina
    Re: BP needs medical attention!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thalasuchus View Post
    I know I'm really new here but I thought I'd chime in just because I have a little bit of experience in this... I had a Chinese water dragon with osteomyelitis in his lower jaw. It can be a serious infection but once it's treated with antibiotics and the infection is gone, I agree your BP might still have that swelling around her ribs. My CWD still had lumps on his jaw long after the infection was taken care of. My vet said it was calcified scar tissue.
    http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps7368a125.png
    I would second getting a culture done because it took forever to get the right antibiotics for Jazz ^ here and he suffered long for it.

    Don't take my word for it because I have basically zero experience but I wouldn't put stress on her by breeding her when she has had an injury like that, regardless on whether or not it's genetic. I wouldn't want to risk her carrying eggs, myself.

    Jazz is adorable.


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  • 12-29-2013, 06:27 PM
    adamfritzsche
    Re: BP needs medical attention!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patientz3ro View Post
    What kind of damage are we talking about, exactly? Osteomyelitis is just an infection. Granted, it's a serious infection that can be lethal, but I've never heard of it doing any damage genetically. Assuming that's the kind of damage you're concerned about, I don't know that I'd give up on breeding her completely. If I were in your shoes, I would consider going ahead and breeding her once the infection clears up and she's ready to breed otherwise. By all means, have a back up plan, but I'd say breed her, hold back one or two hatchlings, and sell the rest. Obviously at a lower $ and will full disclosure of moms illness, but I don't think it would be an issue, long term. I would also put her in strict qt until I had some idea as to the sourse of infection.

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    Well, after the doc showing me what the infection has done to the spine, which shows that the spine in that spot has practically been eaten away, I don't think it would be wise to ever breed her and on top of that I never intended to keep her anyways, as I have a few bumblebee females. So I still intend on selling her once she has recovered and as such I would definitely not sell her to any one as a future breeder.
  • 12-30-2013, 11:30 AM
    patientz3ro
    Re: BP needs medical attention!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamfritzsche View Post
    Well, after the doc showing me what the infection has done to the spine, which shows that the spine in that spot has practically been eaten away, I don't think it would be wise to ever breed her and on top of that I never intended to keep her anyways, as I have a few bumblebee females. So I still intend on selling her once she has recovered and as such I would definitely not sell her to any one as a future breeder.

    Good point. It's a shame, she looks like she's got a gorgeous pattern. Check your inbox.

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  • 12-30-2013, 11:45 AM
    patientz3ro
    Re: BP needs medical attention!
    Just so everyone is clear about what I meant, my comment about breeding her after her illness was assuming that the concern was for genetic issues in further generations. Considering the extent of bone deterioration in het spine, breeding her wouldn't be right. She needs to be a well loved pet

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