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  • 12-18-2013, 06:54 AM
    I-KandyReptiles
    vanishing over night
    There are many different reasons why a mother rodent will kill/eat their young:
    -Not enough food/water
    -Not enough space
    -Baby was sick
    -Baby died
    -First litter
  • 12-18-2013, 06:55 AM
    brettliff
    Re: vanishing over night
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
    I dont think it has anything to do with "Inbred". When rats/Mice get bored or hungry/thirsty they will sometimes do that. I think even if they detect that the young are sick they will eat them. Was there anything in the cage for them to chew on? How was their food and water? And like Crazymonkee said, you wont see any blood! They are extremly clean about it!

    BOREDOM!! Omg here this is for you http://www.thefunmouse.com/info/breeding.cfm

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.
  • 12-18-2013, 06:58 AM
    brettliff
    Re: vanishing over night
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    There are many different reasons why a mother rodent will kill/eat their young:
    -Not enough food/water
    -Not enough space
    -Baby was sick
    -Baby died
    -First litter

    I agree but I don't see how inbreeding has NOTHING to do with it when several breeding info pages mentioned it. I guess its some collective between these website owners to confuse us. Those bastards!

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.
  • 12-18-2013, 07:01 AM
    brettliff
    Re: vanishing over night
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    There are many different reasons why a mother rodent will kill/eat their young:
    -Not enough food/water
    -Not enough space
    -Baby was sick
    -Baby died
    -First litter

    Didn't say that was the only reason but if you read more of what the op said they have plenty of food and water plenty of space. Actually I read the inbreeding thing from the site owners FAQ.

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.
  • 12-18-2013, 07:01 AM
    ROACH
    Re: vanishing over night
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brettliff View Post
    I literally just read that excessive inbreeding can cause that to happen. Cant figure out where so I cant link you so just ask Google. Its not the most common reason though. And more often than not its because the babies are weak. Not because they need protein. Also increase protein halfway through pregnancy with a milk one for dogs. If you have more than one male with the pregnant female that can also cause this to happen. But the mothers being hungryfor protein is a grossly over used assumption. They eat LOW protein diets.

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.

    Thats cool, Im not going to argue with you about it. Just the past 10 years Ive been breeding rats this is what Ive noticed. And believe me....there has been a couple times, over the years, I didnt have time to get out to feed or water and mama did eat her babies. And I said nothing about them "needing protein", what I said was "I think even if they detect that the young are sick they will eat them". Again I wont argue with you about this, just what Ive learned.
  • 12-18-2013, 07:03 AM
    brettliff
    I didn't say you said anything about protein someone else did. Read the whole thread instead of picking pieces to pick at. And there wouldn't be an obvious sign of inbreeding like there would be when you starved them now would there?

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.
  • 12-18-2013, 07:06 AM
    brettliff
    Re: vanishing over night
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
    Thats cool, Im not going to argue with you about it. Just the past 10 years Ive been breeding rats this is what Ive noticed. And believe me....there has been a couple times, over the years, I didnt have time to get out to feed or water and mama did eat her babies. And I said nothing about them "needing protein", what I said was "I think even if they detect that the young are sick they will eat them". Again I wont argue with you about this, just what Ive learned.

    Sorry I always forget to quote more than one person when responding to two of u in the same post, it causes a lot of confusion

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.
  • 12-18-2013, 07:08 AM
    brettliff
    To op, go to feeder forumand go to breeding Q's or something like that. All very clearly explained. Hope u get it figured

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.
  • 12-18-2013, 07:11 AM
    brettliff
    I think people usually don't consider inbreeding because its not visually obvious that's the problem like an underfed mouse would be

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.
  • 12-18-2013, 07:17 AM
    Crazymonkee
    Re: vanishing over night
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brettliff View Post
    I literally just read that excessive inbreeding can cause that to happen. Cant figure out where so I cant link you so just ask Google. Its not the most common reason though. And more often than not its because the babies are weak. Not because they need protein. Also increase protein halfway through pregnancy with a milk one for dogs. If you have more than one male with the pregnant female that can also cause this to happen. But the mothers being hungryfor protein is a grossly over used assumption. They eat LOW protein diets.

    my mom never went to college thank you very much.

    Yes they eat low protein diets... but ANY pregnant/ lactating mammals need extra during that time

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