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Can a bp live here?

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  • 12-04-2013, 08:24 AM
    jclaiborne
    are your lamps on a dimmer? That gauge in the back isn't an accurate representation of temps. I understand you have a temp gun, but that is a small tank to be running lamps on. Not trying to be rude or anything but, from the picture it looks like you are using aspen bedding in a tiny glass tank with lamps, that is 3 different things that are going to hurt you in the humidity department.
  • 12-04-2013, 12:34 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Can a bp live here?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Doggey75 View Post
    Alright. I'll get it for him this Christmas because he is about 1.9 inches and will be bigger by next Christmas lol

    I wouldn't worry about getting a bigger tank for at least another year. What most people mean is when your bp is full size (which takes about 3-5 years depending on your feeding schedule), then he will need a minimum 40 gallon terrarium.

    I would also suggest swiching to coco husk bedding which seems to hold humidity a little bit better. Covering part of the top (about 2/3 of it) with something will also trap and keep your tank humid longer.

    I have a glass tank with a heat lamp and a UTH so I know exactly what you're dealing with. Planning to go PVC or build a wooden terrarium once my babies are big enough because glass is a pain to keep temps and humidity.

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  • 12-04-2013, 12:38 PM
    Doggey75
    I have aluminium covering almost the whole top. You can't see it in the pic because I took the pic when he was eating. I don't need to change my ways. It I'd working very well for me.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    I wouldn't worry about getting a bigger tank for at least another year. What most people mean is when your bp is full size (which takes about 3-5 years depending on your feeding schedule), then he will need a minimum 40 gallon terrarium.

    Alright thanks. I'll see what I can do since my parents alright might be getting it lol
  • 12-04-2013, 01:01 PM
    jclaiborne
    You say you dont need to change your ways, but you have had your BP for a total fo 3 months, this in no way makes you an expert, we are trying to help you and while your setup works it is not ideal for a BP. Why ask questions about your enclosure if you don't plan on taking any advice? That makes zero sense!
  • 12-04-2013, 04:48 PM
    Doggey75
    I'm asking can my ball python live in a 20 gallon for its life. Not about heat or humidity. I already have does down packed. I am in no way an expert. I never said I was. My BP is healthy and eats well. I constantly get told that heat lamps are horrible. Which they are not. They work very well.
  • 12-04-2013, 05:01 PM
    jclaiborne
    If you are constanrly told something by multiple people then odds are there may be some truth to it...but I'm done tou don't want to take input no skin off my back

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  • 12-04-2013, 06:13 PM
    NH93
    To the original post
    I wouldn't say you need to upgrade right away. An upgrade wouldn't be a bad idea, as previously stated (in the future) :) I think you may be able to tell when you're python is getting too big for the tank. If he can't fully stretch out across the tank, that's usually a good indication as well. Keep an eye on any changes in behaviour that you may notice as well.


    As per the other comments; if you feel you and your BP benefit from the lamps versus the UTH with thermostat and it is indeed working for the both of you, then I suggest just adding in some damp sphagnum moss and creating a "shed box", which hopefully will help with the humidity. It is quite cheap and lasts a long time!
    A temp gun is an excellent thing. If you don't want to always be opening up the lid, you can put it next to the glass at the bottom of the tank as well and I find it is quite accurate.

    Just keeping in mind that there should be about a 10F difference from one side of the tank to the other with this respect (~80F one side, ~90F the other). To keep my ambient air temp up I use a 50W red bulb which stays on 24/7 and does not bother the BP's eyes - and the air lingers around 79-83F. I hope you are not turning the heat bulbs off at night! No night drops are necessary (and less than 75F is harmful).

    People just suggest the UTH as snakes benefit from belly heat to digest their food. It can also be nice to not have to monitor the heat as much, as thermostats regulate that for you. However if you find your temps are accurate and your snake is eating and pooping and shedding properly, I personally don't see a problem with it.

    Best of luck!
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