Need a deescription of these morphs please?

Were you born blind or do you know what colors look like? I'm not trying to be mean but we cant describe them unless you know what the colors look like that we're talking about lol.

What's your budget for this male?

I went blind at the age of 18, so I have a good grasp on my colors. That whole going blind thing is probably a story for another day though. :) I would say I wouldn't want to spend more than $450 wit or without shipping.

oh ok :)

so with a good description you can imagine it.

the piebald is a very visual morph, parts of the snake are completely white (and it is a very pure white) but it has areas where it shows normal coloration, the head also has normal color. with sharp edges seperating the two. imagine a completely white snake, now give it a normal colored head, and then take some circular pieces of paper of different size and glue them on the back of the snake, roll them down the sides. the areas where the hypothetical paper would be get outlines, and get filled with normal color and patterning. its quite random, some are 90% white leaving pretty much only the head, some are only 10% white, many are inbetween. You cannot go wrong with a 50% white pied.

The ivory (super form of yellowbelly) is a nearly completely white snake with dark eyes and often a faint yellow stripe right above the spine. they have a bit of light grey on the top of the head and the sides of the head.

Bumble bee is harder to describe. it features black, yellow, and white. Basically we have a pattern morph, spider, that reduces much of the pattern, so we get black near the spine, sometimes two lines of black, sometimes one very wiggly line. and from these black areas, you have some black lines going vertically down the sides. between and around that you have yellow, which often turns into light brown as they age. in the lower half of the body (assuming the snake is horizontal, so i mean, closer to the belly) you get some white coming in and replacing some of the yellow. The head looks quite unusual, with some symmetrical pattern of black and yellow on top of the head. its a combination of spider, which changes the pattern, and pastel, which brightens up the colors and replaces much of the brown with yellow.

stinger bee and honey bee and other things like queen bee are variations on this theme, with different genes involved, but always with spider.

oh, i didnt notice your post where you say 450 dollars is the limit. a bumble bee is definitively lower than 450, im not so sure about piebald or ivory, i think they are still a bit higher. Others know the prices better than i do.

Firefly or black pewter would be in your price range as well, they are also quite visual since they are also 2-gene combinations.

Sounds pretty cool! So far I like the Ivory. Can you tell me what the firefly and black pewter look like too?
Does it being male change the coloration in any way?

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Sounds pretty cool! So far I like the Ivory. Can you tell me what the firefly and black pewter look like too?
Does it being male change the coloration in any way?

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Color and pattern are individual to the morph and to the snake, sex has no bearing on it.

You could probably find male ivories for $450... At the last expo i saw a lot for $500 to $600.

Fireflies are yellow with lots of blushing. Their patterns can vary from busy to more reduced. Their heads should be very blushed too.

Black pewters are a combination pastel and black pastel. They're a dark grey snake overall with a busy looking pattern. Their pattern is grainy and shattered looking.

If you're questioning any purchase please feel free to message me on here and i'd be happy to do whatever i can to help. I agree, even if you can't see it, you should still get a hot looking snake!!

When you say normal, does she know what normal ball pythons look like?

For the record, I think this thread is absolutely awesome! It's great you guys are helping her out. It's also great to see OP active on the forum.

I wish I was able to give a detailed description and it make sense to someone else other than myself lol.

Ok, thanks much guys!
The black pewter sounds pretty cool. What does the regular balls look like?
I have never seen a snake before. Can someone describe the pastel and super pastel?
Also, what is the difference between an albino and an ivory? I mean I know the definition of albino when it comes to other animal species, what does it mean to a ball?
I want a snake that is somewhat colorful (pretty colors) but I also don't want just stripes. I hope that makes sense.

if you like the ivory, you might consider a blue eyed leucistic, also called BEL.

many of these are all-white snakes with blue eyes. for a completely white snake with blue eyes, you could choose a lesser mojave or a lesser mystic or lesser phantom.

the super mojave is almost all white with blue eyes, but it has a light grey head. and the body also has a tiny little bit of grey in the white.

oh, and, super just means that the python carries two copies of the gene in question. sometimes the super form of a codominant gene is just an amplified version of the simple codominant, and sometimes the super form looks radically different.

for example, while it would be really hard to describe the differences between a yellowbelly ball python and a normal ball python, the super form of yellowbelly, the ivory ball, is radically different and quite easy to describe.

How do you maintain husbandry?
With temp and humid gauges and such, you got someone else doing the whole deal?

Thanks for those suggestions!
I have been looking around, and what does the fire or cinnamon balls look like? I would assume some serious earthy tones, but not sure.
I would love to get the BEL, but I have a feeling they are currently out of my price range.