Breeding loan

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Originally Posted by Neal

I'd make a video of everything just to add an additional layer of security and have everything notarized as well.

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By video do you mean a video of going to their home? I've been documenting all written communication and will want anything said written as well.



If anyone is curious, here is Kenai. First is him in dark phase and the next in light phase. I love that hog island influence in him.

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I mean document meetings, video with faces and that it's only a loan and document the signing of the contract along with him reading it aloud.

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Originally Posted by Neal

I mean document meetings, video with faces and that it's only a loan and document the signing of the contract along with him reading it aloud.

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Okay I will take that into consideration. Thank you a bunch for you input

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Originally Posted by SnowShredder

Okay I will take that into consideration. Thank you a bunch for you input

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It's no problem. I'd want the same said to me if I was doing it. Fortunately for me my Mojave girl will be going stay with a really reliable person when she gets to size :P I hope all works out well for you though.

Breeding loans can be done successfully, but the most important in my opinion aside from the piece of paper is picking the right person to do a loan with.

If you have a contract which I recommend (also I never use one with the loans I have made) everything need to be in writing from who gets what, to who is responsible in the event the animal must go to a vet or even dies. (The more details the better)....how long of a at period, what happen if the female does not go that season, should the breeding stop and the animal be returned or should the animal stay another season.

It is also important to communicate during the loan, does not mean people should get an update each week, but updates on how the animals are doing whether or not they are eating, when they are building, ovy etc

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Breeding loans can be done successfully, but the most important in my opinion aside from the piece of paper is picking the right person to do a loan with.

If you have a contract which I recommend (also I never use one with the loans I have made) everything need to be in writing from who gets what, to who is responsible in the event the animal must go to a vet or even dies. (The more details the better)....how long of a at period, what happen if the female does not go that season, should the breeding stop and the animal be returned or should the animal stay another season.

It is also important to communicate during the loan, does not mean people should get an update each week, but updates on how the animals are doing whether or not they are eating, when they are building, ovy etc

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I changed this part around a bit. I hope it is clear enough and detailed.



If Kenai were to become ill or injured, James will immediately take him to a local exotics vet, and immediately contact me.

I will reimburse any and all vet costs as long as James is not the one held liable. If Kenai were to become ill or injured because of lack of care or neglect then James will be held liable and will be responsible for vet costs. This includes burns from an uncontrolled heat source.

James guarantees that his female is 100% healthy. If that turns out not to be true and Kenai contracts a disease or illness from the female then James will be held liable. This includes illnesses such as IBD and other contagions. This does not include things such as tumors or abscesses as they are not contagions.

If the amount of a vet visit were to total over $200 then I must receive another call before moving forward.



Also added this paragraph

Kenai and the female will both be quarantined separately for at least 60 days. After that they may begin breeding but are to be kept separate from the rest of James’s collection. Kenai will not be bred to any other females except the one discussed in this contract.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Breeding loans can be done successfully, but the most important in my opinion aside from the piece of paper is picking the right person to do a loan with.

If you have a contract which I recommend (also I never use one with the loans I have made) everything need to be in writing from who gets what, to who is responsible in the event the animal must go to a vet or even dies. (The more details the better)....how long of a at period, what happen if the female does not go that season, should the breeding stop and the animal be returned or should the animal stay another season.

It is also important to communicate during the loan, does not mean people should get an update each week, but updates on how the animals are doing whether or not they are eating, when they are building, ovy etc

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I'm pretty sure I covered all those points (written in my first post). I put a one year deadline and if babies are not produced by then, then the loan will end.
I put that I need periodic updates on how the process is coming and also contact me if problems come up. I will make it more specific though as to what type of updates I want

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Breeding loans can be done successfully, but the most important in my opinion aside from the piece of paper is picking the right person to do a loan with.

If you have a contract which I recommend (also I never use one with the loans I have made) everything need to be in writing from who gets what, to who is responsible in the event the animal must go to a vet or even dies. (The more details the better)....how long of a at period, what happen if the female does not go that season, should the breeding stop and the animal be returned or should the animal stay another season.

It is also important to communicate during the loan, does not mean people should get an update each week, but updates on how the animals are doing whether or not they are eating, when they are building, ovy etc

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That's why I <3 you Deborah. You're an awesome person :P

You should be more specific on the males genetics. For proper in enclosure for the hatchlings, be specific on the size, and husbandry. You might want to add a foul play claws, insuring that you do not fall victim if let's say 4 out of 4 eggs hatch but you are told only 3 did and the dead one was discarded. Insure you get a correct clutch count and lay eyes on all hatchlings, alive or not. That's what I would add.

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Originally Posted by Oombootoo

You should be more specific on the males genetics. For proper in enclosure for the hatchlings, be specific on the size, and husbandry. You might want to add a foul play claws, insuring that you do not fall victim if let's say 4 out of 4 eggs hatch but you are told only 3 did and the dead one was discarded. Insure you get a correct clutch count and lay eyes on all hatchlings, alive or not. That's what I would add.

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Doubt anyone is gonna get eggs on that one :rofl:

As for husbandry cage size and such, I think it is a bit pushy, when doing a lone with someone I would expect that the person knows how to keep animals in an optimal manner however it does not mean that they have to keep their animal the exact same way I do.

I have/had animals from 4 different people this season and they do not keep their animal the way I do, for example I do not provide a hot spot during most of the year while they do.