I'm so bummed... *graphic pics

sorry to hear about your clutch. sometimes it's a compatible issue between the 2 snakes like angllady2 said. it happens, and this is what most would call a weak clutch. happen to me when I first started breeding and I was trying to figure it out just like you. so it's very possible that it wasn't nothing you did or an incubator problem, just a weak clutch. this is the bad part of breeding. it sucks when it happens, hope you have better luck on the next clutch, don

*update* the BEL is out of its egg. Still waiting on the little mojave. This little thing is the smallest hatchling I've ever seen. It's belly and heart seem swollen. Got a quick pic but didn't want to mess with them too much. I'll try to weigh them if they are doing ok tomorrow. I still have hope for these poor little ones :(
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:( That's so sad. Are you sure there wasn't a temp spike? Or humidity problems at all? Did you check temps with a good thermometer or just take the thermostat's word for it?

I have a herpstat and a small digital thermometer. They are both within a degree of each other.

Fingers crossed for your little survivors!

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I have a herpstat and a small digital thermometer. They are both within a degree of each other.

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All Herpstats are slightly off and need to be properly dialed in with a reliable secondary/tertiary source. What digital thermometer are you using? The first thing I do when receiving a herpstat is tune it properly with THESE and one of THESE. I have received some stats that were off by 3+ degrees, which is a big concern especially for incubation temps.

Sorry for your loss and best of luck.

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Originally Posted by don15681

sorry to hear about your clutch. sometimes it's a compatible issue between the 2 snakes like angllady2 said. it happens, and this is what most would call a weak clutch. happen to me when I first started breeding and I was trying to figure it out just like you. so it's very possible that it wasn't nothing you did or an incubator problem, just a weak clutch. this is the bad part of breeding. it sucks when it happens, hope you have better luck on the next clutch, don

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I agree with Don. My first clutch this year was a disaster (lost the whole clutch) and had a similar clutch last year (different pairing). Other clutches in the same incubator laid around the same time are hatching out with no problems so I don't think it was a temp spike or humidity issue but more of a compatability issues with the parents. Maybe something happened between ovulation and the time she laid who knows.

Sorry to hear about your clutch...try to hang in there. It really is a great hobby and the good times will out weigh the bad.

I actually have the same thermometer. I've never heard of herpstat a being inaccurate. I will definitely check that out.

Been there on my first clutch,loss 2 Lavender Albinos. 2nd and 3rd clutches put the smile back on my face. Hopefully 5,6,7,and 8 will do the same.

Really sorry about the losses. :( Grats on the BEL and I hope it and its sibling do well for you.