Really weird Black Pastel or something else?

It's definitely an interesting addition, that belly looks clear to me though. Huh! Definitely an interesting thing to mess around with, keep us informed!

I would say it has some black pastel features.

Pretty strange right?

Looks a bit like some chocolates I've produced that I believe are het pied. Did the seller produce this one and if not where did they get it?

I'd ask about the history of that snake. Very unique looking.

Hi guys

The seller didnt breed this male, he bought it to another seller who i just talked to and he says hes 100% sure hes a black pastel and that even when he didnt breed it he would search for the invoice and he would tell me who´s the original breeder, it looks like this male came from a big breeder in the U.S.A so until now its unknown where this rare male came from

what do you guys think? im hoping this male has something special going on inside.:)

For some reason I can't quote your post, so I'll just say it.

I honestly wouldn't take the word of the guy you bought it from as I think he's just lying to you. I think he's just telling you what you want to hear, and unless he actually shows you the paperwork I'd take what he says with a grain of salt. Now I could be wrong, and I've gone by this saying for a long time: "Believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see." He would remember who he got the snake from and even he has a lot of snake one would presume he has experience and he had enough since to know it wasn't a Black Pastel.

You can hope if you want, but I honestly wouldn't get your hopes up. I'm willing to bet he doesn't produce that paperwork. Now it's a nice snake and all but I've learned from experience that if you give a stranger a chance to get over on you, then they usually will.

Neal im glad you take your time on posting and reading:), i dont think the same way you do because if i´d live that way i woudnt trust in anyone and probably my life would be a mess because humans need trust in order to advance by making relations,

i think you missunderstood what i posted, the seller who made the auction bought this male to another person, a reputable seller and breeder also, thats the person who i talked to he said the snake was hes and that he bought it and even when he didnt remember the breeder who came from he would search the paperwork and will show me, i mean to this person it doesnt matter anymore if it is a black pastel or something else you know? he was pretty kind when i talked to him and i never told him i would buy the snake or anything else i just made a question about a snake "i saw" and gave him photos of the actual snake, i dont know if this is a male black pastel, yellow belly or something else because its not in my hands yet, but i can tell you from the pictures that the male and female YB that i own doesnt look anything like this male

but im still waiting to saturday to see him in person so then i can tell what does exactly i see :D

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Originally Posted by Neal

I think he's just telling you what you want to hear...

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Would they want to hear that it is a black pastel or that it's a weird unknown dinker? Nothing against black pastels but I'd be more interested in the possibility it's something else. Doesn't sound like it's happening this time as the claim is it is a black pastel but I may have seen cases where weird captive bred are represented as imports to up their dinker status.

It's not a ton of money, line breed it and see what comes out. A good shot of the back of the head might help me tell if it's chocolate or not.

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

Would they want to hear that it is a black pastel or that it's a weird unknown dinker? Nothing against black pastels but I'd be more interested in the possibility it's something else. Doesn't sound like it's happening this time as the claim is it is a black pastel but I may have seen cases where weird captive bred are represented as imports to up their dinker status.

It's not a ton of money, line breed it and see what comes out. A good shot of the back of the head might help me tell if it's chocolate or not.

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NO, I meant the part about the papers and what not.