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  • 06-21-2013, 04:53 PM
    Antiblink
    When I got him he came on a perch much bigger than what I have in there now and he perched on it. The tank isn't very large either, 18 inches wide by 24 tall. Should I still add something to make him feel more secure? Also, how can I lower temps? The day light bulb is a 100W, the night time bulb is a 75 watt.

    The issue with adding more perches is that I'm not sure how. This one was a total pain in the ass, I had to buy a plunger, cut it to size, then use mounts to get it in there. I have no clue how to attach perches to a glass sided tank.
  • 06-21-2013, 05:15 PM
    KMG
    Use a rheostat (dimmer) to lower the output of the bulb. But a tstat would be best.

    Yes cover the sides for security. A adult only needs a 2*2*2 cage and yours is a far way from that. Most young ones are kept in something around. 1*1*12-15".

    As for the perches use rod hanger brackets and closet rods or pvc pipe. Just get a good adhesive.
    http://www.lowes.com/pd_16696-47361-...oset+rod+mount

    You can also google "pvc snake perch" and select images. You can find alot of pvc perches that are free standing and just sit inside the enclosure.
  • 06-21-2013, 05:56 PM
    Antiblink
    Re: New GTP, I'm concered he may be ill.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    Use a rheostat (dimmer) to lower the output of the bulb. But a tstat would be best.

    Yes cover the sides for security. A adult only needs a 2*2*2 cage and yours is a far way from that. Most young ones are kept in something around. 1*1*12-15".

    As for the perches use rod hanger brackets and closet rods or pvc pipe. Just get a good adhesive.
    http://www.lowes.com/pd_16696-47361-...oset+rod+mount

    You can also google "pvc snake perch" and select images. You can find alot of pvc perches that are free standing and just sit inside the enclosure.


    Sweet, thanks a lot! I don't have any days off until Wednesday, will he be okay until then?
  • 06-21-2013, 06:19 PM
    KMG
    I would think so.

    Walmart should have a dimmer if you have one close.
  • 06-21-2013, 07:24 PM
    DooLittle
    Re: New GTP, I'm concered he may be ill.
    In regards to perch size... my December 2012 is on plastic coat hangers. The breeder mine came from said he uses those until at least a year. And that in his personal experience they tend to prefer a smaller perch. Since your guy hasnt changed color yet, I would assume its under a year. Might try a plastic hanger perch. Here is a pic for size idea. He's in shed and just ate, so nevermind him.

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/22/uty7e4y8.jpg
  • 07-09-2013, 01:32 PM
    tikigator
    I'm late to the party as I have been out of town. To the OP, enclosure husbandry is 110% of chondro care. I am going to try to give you some advice, please feel free to use whta you can to help your little one. My very first and foremost recomendation if you do not already own it is to invest immediately in the book The More Complete Chondro by Greg Maxwell. It is available on Amazon or Kindle. Every chondro owner should have this book as it is the bible to chondro ownership and guides you thru feeding, husbandry, care, veterinary issues, breeding, etc for all stages of a chondros life. Here are some thoughts for your husbandry:

    #1 your enclosure is WAY too large for that young snake. We keep our neos in 6qt tubs until they are 12-18 months with coat hanger perches (as doolittle posted above) and then they graduate to a 15qt tub with a coathanger perch and a 1/2" pvc perch. When they are 2-3 years old (well through their morphing stage) they can go into a large tub, or a 24" cube.

    #2 ditch the lights. your snake is grounded more than likely because he is too hot and cannot get away from the heat. we never use lights for our snakes, and if you do you must take into account the heat they are putting off. your cages is drying because your lamps are acting as a drying source and drying up the cage. chondros need radiant heat, either a heat panel above them, or back heat for younger snakes in tubs. They do not need lights overhead. all that does is dry them out and increase heat in their enclosure. they need to have a hot side and a cool side. hot side needs to be 86-87.

    KMG also gave you some good information as well. Smaller enclosure, smaller perches, and I would get rid of the lights. He's telling you he is stressed. Your enclosure is very nice, for a larger animal. But this is a baby, he needs to feel secure and be able to self regulate. there's no way he can with those hot bright lights all over the cage.

    Good luck to you!! Hope this helps some!!
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