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  • 04-27-2013, 04:44 PM
    Archimedes
    I am distrustful of vets who reccomend last-resort procedures for animals as resilient as ball pythons. If she was actively losing many grams a week and still refusing prey, I may consider a procedure, but as knowledgeable as your vet sounds, she may be looking at her bottom line.
  • 04-28-2013, 09:45 AM
    kitedemon
    Re: Vet wants to force feed my snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VooDooDoc View Post
    This vet was highly recommended she seemed like she knew what she was talking about but based on the feedback here maybe I should go elsewhere. She even called a week after the appt just to check in.

    As far as ambient temp it is set at 80.

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    The wording you have used is a touch odd.

    How are you measuring the ambient air temps?

    What is heating them?

    I have been finding in helping locally ambient air temps are often off, even with correct surface temps snakes in low air temps seem to refuse. I have found that correcting air temps non feeders (IF Temps are the issue) start feeding again.

    I am just looking at possible causes.

    The other thing to keep in mind royals around the 1000 gm margin (give or take) often seem to stop feeding for a period of time. I don't know why but it often is around the point of sexual maturity, females seem to run a touch over 1000gm males at or under it. It is just an observation with no hard data to back it up I have a small sampling but this pattern holds for 8 of mine.
  • 04-28-2013, 10:07 AM
    VooDooDoc
    Re: Vet wants to force feed my snake
    Ambient is heated by heat lamps on rheostats and maintained at a constant 80 by a thermostat with probe hanging in the middle.Measured by a thermometer at each end and in the middle (I had extras so threw them in). Hot spot is heat cable at 92 (basically a big uth) with thin layer of aspen. Sep thermostat of course.

    She moves back and forth between hides every so often so seems to be able to thermoregulate ok. Doesnt roam. Occasionally comes out at night.

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  • 04-28-2013, 11:32 AM
    satomi325
    Re: Vet wants to force feed my snake
    Try live mice or ASFs first. I've always used live mice to jump start off feeders and they are all rat feeders. No problems going back to rats.

    But honestly, being off feed is nothing abnormal for an adult. Most of my adults have been off feed since October as well. I'm not worried at all yet.

    Tube feeding is stressful and could make things much worse. Its the absolute last resort. I wouldn't tube feed unless it was starving to death/emaciated.

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  • 04-28-2013, 11:34 AM
    kitedemon
    Cool that works. I personally would hold off on tube feeding until she looses more weight. It is an option I just think this is premature.
  • 04-28-2013, 11:58 AM
    VooDooDoc
    Re: Vet wants to force feed my snake
    definitely going to hold off on the tube feeding for now. Will try mice for a few weeks and see what happens. Thanks to all for the advice.

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  • 04-30-2013, 09:18 PM
    hotelvoodoo
    Re: Vet wants to force feed my snake
    Personally, I would wait. I just had some of mine go back on food and they hadn't eaten since October either. I still have a female off of food who went off early that month and she only weighs 700 grams. But she's only lost about 100 grams this whole time. If it gets to looking dangerously thin, I'd at least attempt an assist feed before force feeding.

    Now, I also have met breeders who don't allow their snakes to be off of food for more than a month and assist feed all the time. I sold one in particular a picky eater and he said it wouldn't be a problem. She refused food for him and he assist fed her the next week. She hasn't refused since. So I guess, at the end of the day, it's all about what you are comfortable with.
  • 05-03-2013, 08:43 PM
    VooDooDoc
    Re: Vet wants to force feed my snake
    So she ate a f/t mouse this past week. Not getting my hopes up that she is going to start eating again. However any advice on how to proceed in case she is done with this strike.

    Should I just feed a mouse for a few weeks? Or maybe multiple mice? Or just go right back to trying rats? She still wouldn't strike I just left it on overnight and it was gone in the AM.

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  • 05-04-2013, 02:26 PM
    FireStorm
    At her size, multiple mice, or a rat if she will eat it, should be fine. When we have an animal coming off a fast, we usually do one or two small meals then back to normal.
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