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  • 04-28-2013, 11:04 AM
    Mike41793
    Is this Dinker worth messing with?
    Normal looking. :gj:
  • 04-28-2013, 12:13 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Is this Dinker worth messing with?
    healthy looking normal.

    No two normals look the same and there is a lot of variety, but this is well within the spectrum. The speckling is too weak to be a morph.
  • 04-28-2013, 04:29 PM
    yardy
    Re: Is this Dinker worth messing with?
    she looks normal to me too - it takes more than just a bit of speckling to make a genetic granite and she just doesn't have the look at all. I still don't see why you can't keep her and breed her though. If you really want to concentrate on albino projects then you will need some hets and she looks like she could make you some nice ones.
  • 04-28-2013, 04:41 PM
    ChaosAffect
    Re: Is this Dinker worth messing with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yardy View Post
    she looks normal to me too - it takes more than just a bit of speckling to make a genetic granite and she just doesn't have the look at all. I still don't see why you can't keep her and breed her though. If you really want to concentrate on albino projects then you will need some hets and she looks like she could make you some nice ones.

    My plans are to have about 3 albino females and various x het albino males. If I bred the het albino males to her I'd only be looking at 50% hets, not worth the time IMO. Hopefully I'll find someone that's got some co-doms they want to breed.
  • 04-28-2013, 06:48 PM
    valhalha30
    She's just a normal, but, she does need a home.... and you have her already.... and she doesn't deserve being passed around and moved around from person to person just because she's just a "normal, and no one want to breed a normal"
    I get how you feel, but, if space isn't an issue, then why not just keep her as a pet, without breeding concerns? But if you are ONLY concentrating on breeding, that Girl you got WILL produce some really quality babies. Just pair her up with your pastel, and trade one of the best babies or a few of the babies for something else to breed with her.
    That's what I'm doing with mine.
  • 04-28-2013, 09:30 PM
    ChaosAffect
    Re: Is this Dinker worth messing with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by valhalha30 View Post
    She's just a normal, but, she does need a home.... and you have her already.... and she doesn't deserve being passed around and moved around from person to person just because she's just a "normal, and no one want to breed a normal"
    I get how you feel, but, if space isn't an issue, then why not just keep her as a pet, without breeding concerns? But if you are ONLY concentrating on breeding, that Girl you got WILL produce some really quality babies. Just pair her up with your pastel, and trade one of the best babies or a few of the babies for something else to breed with her.
    That's what I'm doing with mine.

    Two words: My wife. Getting her to let me get one was hard enough. Two was a battle. The three that came together (my Albino female, my het Albino male, and this girl) was WWIII... I don't think I'll be able to work towards my goal and keep what I have, unfortunately. I'm probably going to have to let the spider female and pastel male I've got go too so I can get a couple more Albino females. I'm not looking to breed to make money. I just want to produce a few albino morphs that I can't afford to buy and maybe defray the costs of this hobby a bit. I agree that it's not fair to pass her around, but it's even less fair to have her in a situation where she doesn't get that much attention, and I'm afraid that's what's going to happen.
  • 04-28-2013, 11:20 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Is this Dinker worth messing with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChaosAffect View Post
    My plans are to have about 3 albino females and various x het albino males. If I bred the het albino males to her I'd only be looking at 50% hets, not worth the time IMO. Hopefully I'll find someone that's got some co-doms they want to breed.

    you need 1 male for 2-3 females, if you want to get into breeding and want to keep the numbers low. Also, because of this, because all breeders work like this, males are cheaper than females, especially when it comes to combos. You will accomplish more if you get one or two awesome looking visible albino males, and 3-6 het albino (+ something else) females.

    When you breed a male het albino to 3 visible albino females, the result will be identical to breeding a male visible albino to 3 het albino females. The odds on the clutches and the hatchlings will be the same. But one of these two options makes less sense and will be more expensive.

    But if 5 BPs are upper limit, it gets difficult. I would say 2 male 3 female, and take care the males carry lots of good genes ;)
  • 04-28-2013, 11:40 PM
    Coopers Constrictors
    Why not get a visual male, and keep her to produce a plethora of Hets, then keep all those girls and before you know it, you will have LOTS of visuals.
  • 04-28-2013, 11:53 PM
    ChaosAffect
    Re: Is this Dinker worth messing with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kurtilein View Post
    you need 1 male for 2-3 females, if you want to get into breeding and want to keep the numbers low. Also, because of this, because all breeders work like this, males are cheaper than females, especially when it comes to combos. You will accomplish more if you get one or two awesome looking visible albino males, and 3-6 het albino (+ something else) females.

    When you breed a male het albino to 3 visible albino females, the result will be identical to breeding a male visible albino to 3 het albino females. The odds on the clutches and the hatchlings will be the same. But one of these two options makes less sense and will be more expensive.

    But if 5 BPs are upper limit, it gets difficult. I would say 2 male 3 female, and take care the males carry lots of good genes ;)

    You know, I had this whole long thing defending my position typed out, then I actually stopped and re-read what you posted and realized that you're absolutely right. Dammit. I'm definitely not giving up my albino girl, she's teh awesome, but I'm most likely going to need to snag a 1.0 albino too, eventually. For now I need to be focusing on finding homes for the missteps that I've made and acquiring spider and enchi het albino females...

    That's the problem with getting into a hobby too fast, you realize that you've gone down one path too far and have to backtrack. I appreciate the advice, and apologize if I've been pigheaded up to this point.

    As for the normal female... unfortunately it still doesn't make sense for me to keep her.
  • 04-29-2013, 12:07 AM
    angllady2
    Ignore that post. In re-reading your post, I believe you are looking for morph het girls, not that you already have them.

    Gale
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