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  • 04-14-2013, 05:30 PM
    BFE Pets
    Re: What morph (if any) of boa am i dealing with?
    I'm by no mean an expert on boas but Imo you may be onto a line bred trait for color or pattern. Everyone has said they see nic or CA influence and I completely agree but selective breeding gets selective offspring. They are very nice looking and I would keep selectively breeding to try and get more and more extreme examples of the purple. Who knows maybe you will be able to name your own line of boa morph sorta like all the pastel lines out there. He's a link that may help you in the future. It won't help this situation but if you want to get more into the genetics of boas and breeding it will be a huge help. Just keep in mind morphs and localities are completely two different things.

    Boa calculator:

    http://www.owalreptiles.com/boagenetics.php
  • 04-14-2013, 07:59 PM
    lightpied
    Re: What morph (if any) of boa am i dealing with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by H.o.F.R View Post
    I'm by no mean an expert on boas but Imo you may be onto a line bred trait for color or pattern. Everyone has said they see nic or CA influence and I completely agree but selective breeding gets selective offspring. They are very nice looking and I would keep selectively breeding to try and get more and more extreme examples of the purple. Who knows maybe you will be able to name your own line of boa morph sorta like all the pastel lines out there. He's a link that may help you in the future. It won't help this situation but if you want to get more into the genetics of boas and breeding it will be a huge help. Just keep in mind morphs and localities are completely two different things.

    Boa calculator:

    http://www.owalreptiles.com/boagenetics.php


    Yeah after looking at some photos of some nics and CA's i see what everyones talking about now.
    After i saw how much purple she had it made me very curious as to why she has so much. I have not been able to find
    any that have that tone of purple so im defiantly going to breed the sire back to her when shes ready. I would love so much
    one day to be able to make some more of her. She has lost some of the purple tone and has now alot of black but still quite a bit
    of purple!

    While on the topic do Nics usually have smaller litters ? because both years she has produced 10 babies all perfectly healthy :)
  • 04-14-2013, 08:36 PM
    Evenstar
    Ok, after seeing the parents, I would tend to agree that there is more Nicaraguan influence rather than Argentine. Not seeing much Argie in the mom at all and the dad looks pure Nic to me. Could be some CA influence in the mom, so it sounds like most people are seeing the same things - mostly Nicaraguan with some Central American influence.

    I also agree with H.o.F.R. in that the babies may be showing some selectively bred traits. Both the female and the male are very nice. The male seems to display some anerythristic traits as well, although that may have to be proven by breeding him later on.

    I am not aware of Nics generally having smaller litters, although it is possible since they are considered one of the smaller localities. As such, they may not have the larger litter sizes that Colombians or BCCs are known for. On the other hand, this litter could have been a bit smaller if it was the dam's first. Usually a first time mom will only have 10-20 babies in her first litter. :gj:
  • 04-15-2013, 01:04 PM
    lightpied
    What morph (if any) of boa am i dealing with?
    Wow learning a lot here thanks Evenstar. This is her second time around both years yielded 10 babies. They all come out pretty small compared to CAs from what I've seen but like you said prob the Nics influence.

    So if I bred the daughter back to the father would that be the best for selectively breeding for the purple tone? Or would it be best to breed her back to her brother?

    Thanks again!
  • 04-15-2013, 05:53 PM
    STjepkes
    Not a boa breeder, so I'm no help. But those are a couple gorgeous offspring you've held back. :gj:


    :D
  • 04-15-2013, 08:47 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: What morph (if any) of boa am i dealing with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lightpied View Post
    Wow learning a lot here thanks Evenstar. This is her second time around both years yielded 10 babies. They all come out pretty small compared to CAs from what I've seen but like you said prob the Nics influence.

    So if I bred the daughter back to the father would that be the best for selectively breeding for the purple tone? Or would it be best to breed her back to her brother?

    Thanks again!

    I would breed the son back to mom and see what happens. If you don't get something cool, then try the daughter to the father. The only reason I suggest the son to mom first is because he'll be ready to breeed sooner than his sister and you might get some answers, or at least an idea, sooner rather than later. But the ideal pairing, imo in this case, would be the daughter to father. So if you don't mind waiting for her to grow up (3-4 years), then just wait and put the father to his daughter for, hopefully, some real results.

    BTW, if you DO do that daughter x father pairing and get some more amazing purple animals, I would like to be on the list to get one..... :D
  • 04-17-2013, 02:45 PM
    lightpied
    Re: What morph (if any) of boa am i dealing with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    I would breed the son back to mom and see what happens. If you don't get something cool, then try the daughter to the father. The only reason I suggest the son to mom first is because he'll be ready to breeed sooner than his sister and you might get some answers, or at least an idea, sooner rather than later. But the ideal pairing, imo in this case, would be the daughter to father. So if you don't mind waiting for her to grow up (3-4 years), then just wait and put the father to his daughter for, hopefully, some real results.

    BTW, if you DO do that daughter x father pairing and get some more amazing purple animals, I would like to be on the list to get one..... :D

    Yeah I will probably do the order you have suggested. It'll be worth the wait when I can breed daughter back to the father though :D. Either way as long as the babies come out healthy im all good. HAHA Ill keep you on the list!! I will defiantly post some results from the daughter x father pairing. The daughter was from last year clutch they had more this year and I already can see pink and purple tones in this years clutch!!
  • 04-18-2013, 08:07 PM
    lightpied
    Re: What morph (if any) of boa am i dealing with?
    Here’s a baby from this year’s litter
    this is what the purple one somewhat resembled when she was first born lastyear.





    http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1366329346
  • 04-18-2013, 09:05 PM
    Evenstar
    Intriguing. I'm certainly interested to see how this one turns out. Is this a holdback?
  • 04-19-2013, 01:07 AM
    lightpied
    What morph (if any) of boa am i dealing with?
    Yes this one and funky looking male as well, I also still have 8 others available but I'm in Canada.
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