Spider or stinger bee?

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Originally Posted by jinx667

From the reduction in head stamp, pattern and color, could be Fire Spider or Stinger?

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That's what I like to hear!

The breeder I got her from "didn't have the patience to wait for her to get to breeding weight" but he was "excited about her possible genetics". In my eyes she's definitely a keeper whether she is a normal spider or something more.

I'm not very good with ball morphs, but I'm thinking she would be more stinger rather than fire spider because of her white sides. They're low white,but still there. Fire spiders I've seen don't have that "spider white side" look

My Fire Spider has pretty much no white on her sides, but that may not apply to all of them.


Fire Spider
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psf1b972b4.jpg

Stinger Bee @400ish grams
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psda7e4ccd.jpg


Does he have hatchling pics of her? Stingers tend to have some orange as a hatchling and my Fire Spider did not.

Stinger as a hatchling:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psab411b63.jpg

Baby Fire Spider:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psa29e33a3.jpg


Hope the comparisons help?

No pics from her as a hatchling. In fact, the breeder isn't responding to me at all. But I can say she looks almost EXACTLY like your stinger. She is in shed right now, I'll post more pictures after. She definitely has those white sides. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think fire spiders have those, at least not in the sense that spiders do

Updated pictures of her about 10 minutes ago.

640g weighed today (well technically yesterday now0


http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psef26f0b2.jpghttp://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psd9040520.jpghttp://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...pse128f26a.jpg

she was not very happy...been very cranky lately

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psaa093bfa.jpg

Anyone with more insight?

I'm very excited about this girl whether or not she is 1 or 2 gene. Her pattern is stunning

I would still say POSSIBLE Stinger, will have to breed her to find out.

I will definitely be breeding her. She is gaining weight quickly and came in at 740g empty a few days ago. And I don't power feed. I'm wondering what to breed her with that will give good, definite results on whether or not she has enchi in her. The only males I have that will be breeding size by november are my mojave, a pied, possibly a fire, and possibly a cinnamon. Everyone depending on their weight gain

814g today. I swear she is on normal feeding just growing like a hog!

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psf518fdcf.jpg

I love her jade eyes
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psc36b8699.jpg

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Originally Posted by SnowShredder

I will definitely be breeding her. She is gaining weight quickly and came in at 740g empty a few days ago. And I don't power feed. I'm wondering what to breed her with that will give good, definite results on whether or not she has enchi in her. The only males I have that will be breeding size by november are my mojave, a pied, possibly a fire, and possibly a cinnamon. Everyone depending on their weight gain

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Mojo or Pied are prolly your best bet. A Stinger het Pied would nto be a bad snake to own...

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Originally Posted by Royal Hijinx

Mojo or Pied are prolly your best bet. A Stinger het Pied would nto be a bad snake to own...

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I think our biggest problem is my gf is NOT into hets. Say we breed our pied x spider (poss stinger), all resulting offspring would be het pied...but no visual pieds. That's her thing, and I bought this pied for her so ultimately it's her decision. It's lookin like our pied will only sire pied females though, and her other thought is a morph het pied. BUT if this female proves to be a stinger then I think I can convince her!


I am really crossing my fingers for this one!! I'll pair her this november with our fire (which the gf doesn't agree with but IMO it is the best choice, and they are my snakes), and a second choice will be our mojave