yellowbelly?

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Originally Posted by MorphMaster

From yellowbellies I have seen and what breeders say are that true flames at orange or red. The white is just normal blushing and reduction is pigment. It's common in normals. Either way its a nice normal, or a very bad example of a yellowbelly

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I haven't seen many that retain the orange very long and personally haven't seen anything I would consider to be red in a ball python. A straight yellowbelly/het ivory can look very much like an odd normal. Snakes like this are why people love playing with dinkers still.
Really wishing next world exotics page wasn't suspended, they had a point by point break down of key point of some morph...... Actually did a user here not do something similar?
Ohhh, yes they did but they may have linked to the original images instead of saving and re-posting with attributation to content creator.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...rphs-Het-Ivory

That looks YB to me from the headstamp and flames. Not one i'd wanna breed though.

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Originally Posted by Raven01

I haven't seen many that retain the orange very long and personally haven't seen anything I would consider to be red in a ball python. A straight yellowbelly/het ivory can look very much like an odd normal. Snakes like this are why people love playing with dinkers still.
Really wishing next world exotics page wasn't suspended, they had a point by point break down of key point of some morph...... Actually did a user here not do something similar?
Ohhh, yes they did but they may have linked to the original images instead of saving and re-posting with attributation to content creator.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...rphs-Het-Ivory

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yes i did see page of the link you posted when the images were still there and i thought there were a lot of similarities.

Looks like a YB to me. One thing to consider.... A baby Yb can have a smoking belly pattern that is unmistakably YB. Then as the snake gets older it gets harder to tell. The belly pattern changes. As far as ugly snakes producing ugly babies goes..... I say hogwash. All ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies as well as all fantastic snakes can produce ugly babies. Most people want great looking snakes in their collection and that is understandable...... but it doesn’t mean jack really when it comes to breeding.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Looks like a YB to me. One thing to consider.... A baby Yb can have a smoking belly pattern that is unmistakably YB. Then as the snake gets older it gets harder to tell. The belly pattern changes. As far as ugly snakes producing ugly babies goes..... I say hogwash. All ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies as well as all fantastic snakes can produce ugly babies. Most people want great looking snakes in their collection and that is understandable...... but it doesn’t mean jack really when it comes to breeding.

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I was thinking along those lines "ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies" as me and the wife are ugly yet produced a pretty daughter:D

I say he's a YB too

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Originally Posted by king 66

I was thinking along those lines "ugly snakes can produce fantastic babies" as me and the wife are ugly yet produced a pretty daughter:D

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LOL :rofl:

ok thanks people YB it is then:gj:

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a YB just yet since it was not purchased as one, at least until you can prove it out as being genetic. Say you decide to sell it as a YB down the road and the buyer breeds it and it ends up being a nothing genetic, the buyer is going to be coming to you for answers and/or money back plus your reputation gets trashed. That being said, I would dink around with that; who knows you might end up with something more then a YB.

to many different opinions:confusd: