Hypo?

0.0 nowwww I'm confused lol

when it comes to the morphs that kinda look like albinos, its all very tidy because they have different names: albino, caramel, ultramel, coral glow. and albino, candy and toffee work together, all the other ones dont work together.

with ghost / hypo all the varieties are called ghost or hypo and its a confusing mess. I can understand why people get confused, it just doesnt make that much sense.

Lesserlove, maybe the person that sold the BP to you can tell you which variety of ghost it is.

or can anyone recognize it in the picture?

That snake does look a bit like my Orange ghost(He has a funny head stamp though).
The photo is on the small side and, I'm sure everyone has noticed how different Ball Pythons can appear under different lighting.

Here is my OG for comparison, although I am positive there are many better examples.
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psa7fa630c.jpg

This link may help too:
http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hgghost.htm

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Originally Posted by Lesserlove

0.0 nowwww I'm confused lol

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To confuse you a little more, I believe people are using the term hypo more often now because a ghost in other species of snakes usually refers to a snake that is showing the axanthic and the hypo genes referred to as a true ghost in BPs

Hmmmm guess i'll be hitting up the breeder lol

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Originally Posted by Lesserlove

Soooo I was sold that snake I originally posted as a "hypo" it looks orange to me >.> or is that just a plain Jane ghost?

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A lot of people do just sell ghosts as ghosts (or hypos as hypos) without specifying any more than this. Yours certainly looks like a nice orange.The vast majority of ghosts are orange and anything else is usually indicated but there are more than one line og OG's out there and not even all of those are compatible (although most are). One problem has been wild caught ghosts coming in, being bred and the offspring simply sold as orange ghosts (hypos); there is also the point that (partly due to them just being sold as 'ghosts/hypos') the original ghost lines have been crossed and muddled in together where compatible. I have a distictive line of ghosts here that apparently originated from NERD, although they are now distinct, a whole bunch of other OG's plus a nice pair of green ghosts. I would love to get hold of some blue ghosts (the original ones) but I am not sure that anyone in the UK has these. All 3 of my types are being kept separate for breeding purposes, although I may well test compatibility between the two OG groups at some point. Aside from that I will be looking to line breed the different OG lines and trying to use them in projects that most suit their particular characteristics.

Got ahold of the breeder, he is a TSK extreme x butterscotch

To reiterate... Desert Ghost is NOT a Hypo line. It is a separate mutation. It is possible (and has been done) to have a Hypo Desert Ghost (double recessive).


Most Ghosts (Hypos) are of the Orange or other fruit flavored variety and are generally compatible. For the most part if a breeder is selling a line that is not compatible with Orange Ghost they will say so.

As was said before, in other snakes, Ghost = Hypo + Anery. So Hypo + Axanthic in BPs is called a True Ghost.

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Originally Posted by Lesserlove

Got ahold of the breeder, he is a TSK extreme x butterscotch

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thats good, thats how it should be, that the breeder keeps the data and is available.

butterscotch ghost is in the morph list:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...rscotch-ghost/

What about the tsk? If I bred her would I have to consider that or would I just focus on the fact that she is part butterscotch and go with that she is a butterscotch hypo?