F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
It will do just as good if not better. Over time I think F10 would be the best choice.
Re: F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
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snakeg
f10 is toxic to birds and there for I don't use it on reptiles.
You can look up the chemicals in it and then wikipedia them and see the toxicity.
Why not steam cleaning?
How is it toxic to birds? It is being sold by mysafebirdstore.com (and others) specifically for cleaning bird cages.
I bet I could find a couple dozen ingredients/chemicals in your refrigerator that are toxic to humans in large quantities.
F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
Yes ive seen it marketed for birds and as non toxic to animals as well
F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
snakeg
f10 is toxic to birds and there for I don't use it on reptiles.
You can look up the chemicals in it and then wikipedia them and see the toxicity.
Why not steam cleaning?
I would never use it ON a reptile. Are you thinking of Chlorhexidine?
Re: F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
snakeg
f10 is toxic to birds and there for I don't use it on reptiles.
You can look up the chemicals in it and then wikipedia them and see the toxicity.
Why not steam cleaning?
I believe you are mistaken. It is used to control Circovirus Infection in Birds as well as Avian nebulization.
"The use of F10 Disinfectant Aerosol when directed into the inlet of the Merlin Ventilator chamber-filling stroke for 20 X 2 sprays and circulated for 1 hour with the machine running totally eliminated all the inoculant E coli bacteria.
Keith Simpson, BVSc, MRCVS, AMIIE (Electronics), Managing Director
PinMoore Animal Veterinary Services Ltd 2006.
For further information on any of the products please visit the website of the product developers and manufacturers, Health and Hygiene
We believe F10SC to be by far the most effective, safest and economical disinfectant on the market. A total spectrum disinfectant, it is highly effective against avian diseases including Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease and Psittacosis, killing all types of bacteria, viruses, fungi and spores.
It is non-corrosive, non-toxic, non-irritating and aldehyde free so has no adverse effects on people, animals, equipment or surfaces.
F10SC Veterinary Disinfectant (dilution 1:250-500 i.e. 2-4ml in 1 litre) can be used for just about anything - disinfecting floors, cages, perches and toys, food preparation areas, inside incubators, washing eggs and decontaminating hands. F10SC can also be applied as a fog or fine spray to mist rooms to eradicate airborne microbes and to stop cross contamination."
http://www.f10biocare.co.uk/F10factsissue8.pdf
http://www.meadowsanimalhealthcare.c...actsissue2.pdf
http://www.f10biocare.co.uk/F10factsissue9.pdf
Clearly fogging and nasal washing would not be condoned if it were toxic.
Steam is a great method of cleaning but the time and heat needed to be effective against anything but the most simple
bacteria is out of reach of most home units and commercial tools are needed. (250ºF+ and 10-30 min of time)
Re: F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
snakeg
f10 is toxic to birds and there for I don't use it on reptiles.
You can look up the chemicals in it and then wikipedia them and see the toxicity.
Why not steam cleaning?
Since when, Thomas? Who gave you this erroneous information? Is this information you have firsthand, or something you're parroting from elsewhere? I used it for years with birds and reptiles, and know many others who use it as well. F10 was helping birds for YEARS overseas before it became available recently in the USA.
Perhaps the same vet gave you this info as tried to help you nail an innocent seller to the wall? Don't think we've forgotten ...
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...egenius-BEWARE
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=371684
Re: F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
snakeg
f10 is toxic to birds and there for I don't use it on reptiles.
You can look up the chemicals in it and then wikipedia them and see the toxicity.
Why not steam cleaning?
I would like to know where you gathered your information for this "story"?
I, as well as my REAL vet use f10 and yes they treat exotics and aviary.
Re: F10 Vs Bleach for heavy cleaning.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
snakeg
f10 is toxic to birds and there for I don't use it on reptiles.
You can look up the chemicals in it and then wikipedia them and see the toxicity.
Why not steam cleaning?
?? Please explain the toxicity problems with F10. I don't use it directly on reptiles either, but use it to clean tubs. How is that harmful, in your experience?
