Lock?

Good Luck send pics when she drops them pearly whites

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Originally Posted by joebad976

Good Luck send pics when she drops them pearly whites

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Will do.



S

Update.

Since my last posting I reintroduced the Cinny male to the 2007 female four more times, and observed locks each time. I also have been paying attention to her behavior and weight. Though no specific ovulation behavior has been observed, after a feeding on the 11th of Feburary, (two large F/T mice), she weighed in at 2080 grams. She hasn't been fed since and today she weighed 2250 grams, so I took a close look at her, (pic below). Though I couldn't feel whether any follicles were present, her appearance has changed a bit, and to me she just looks "rounder". Maybe not exactly lumpy, but possibly building. I guess I'll just have to wait and see, but the weight gain of 170 grams gives me some hope.

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps501055da.jpg

You can see my high tech card system on the left of the photo, (just a simple index card). I record everything about each snake including all sheds, cage cleanings, weights and feedings. I also record when the snakes are introduced/removed for breeding, feeding refusals, or anything that happens to a particular snake. It's a good habit to get into, and I can keep them on a schedule without having to rely on my faulty memory.
I also recently decided to switch from newsprint to aspen shavings as an experiment, and so far I much-prefer the shavings. It absorbs odors very well, retains more humidity, and has a pleasant, gentle aroma of it's own when fresh. I also think it's more comfy for the snakes....but, we'll see.........the experiment continues.....

S

Awesome for you! But don't count your chickens yet! (or, BPs lol) Getting locks is the very FIRST stage....then you gotta wait for eggs, then the unbearable gritting-your-teeth period of incubation! Good luck to ya, and for a cinny/normal pairing: "...may the odds be ever in your favor."

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Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady

Awesome for you! But don't count your chickens yet! (or, BPs lol) Getting locks is the very FIRST stage....then you gotta wait for eggs, then the unbearable gritting-your-teeth period of incubation! Good luck to ya, and for a cinny/normal pairing: "...may the odds be ever in your favor."

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Thanks. Yeah I know, waiting and watching, waiting and watching. I successfully bred chameleons some years back, (Veiled & Panthers), and I remember the waiting game very well. The females had to be watched closely to determine when they were ready to lay, and they always seemed to be on their own schedule...never mine. With Chammy's the female had to be placed in a covered bucket of moistened sand at precisely the right moment so they could dig their deep burrows to lay their clutches. The Panthers especially were difficult as they showed no outward physical signs of an impending clutch other than their behavior, hopefully my BP's will be easier to "read".

This particular female has been with that Cinny male several times since last summer, so if she is going to go she should do it soon. A weight gain may or may not be significant, but being an optimist I'm hoping it is!! Stay tuned!

S

Update:

2288 grams, a gain of 38 grams, and she is blue.....again, (she just shed a month ago), and definitely lumping up. Whether it was follicles I felt today is another question, but I felt something in there and she is showing definite signs of going, (possible pre-ovulation shed, lumping up, weight gain, slight tail-suck). In the closeup below you can see she is definitely blue, and though it may be hard to see in the other photo she is definitely lumpy.

Definitely blue, (again):

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps1f5c758e.jpg

Lumpy girl!!:

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps8e66dda4.jpg

The next sign would be the "glow" before she goes, (after the impending shed). If I see her laying inverted that would be another good sign. It's also possible that this upcoming shed is actually a pre-lay shed, (it's totally possible she has been building without my noticing), in which case I would get eggs around 30 days after. According to what I've read she will shed 16 days after ovulation, (which I may have already missed noticing), and then she should lay 27 days after that.

Whatever the case, whether this is a pre-lay or pre-ovulation shed, it's beginning to look promising.

S

I wasn't sure before, but I am now. We've got follicles. She definitely is uncomfortable, is refusing to feed and moving back and forth from the warm side to wrapping herself around the water bowl on the cool side; plus she is definitely looking lumpy. It might be hard to see in the photos, but I absolutely felt follicles when I palpitated around the lump. This will be my first clutch in 20years, (not my first though). Keeping a close eye on her and getting an incubator ready! Stay tuned!


S

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps9bf50d54.jpg

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps5128ec88.jpg

Yup, plus she is glowing.

Thanks for the confirmation. It's been awhile so I've been second guessing myself, but the signs are now pretty obvious. She only bred with my cinnamon male.......so will I get 50/50 normal/cinny? Hmmmm, where did I put that genetics calculator link?
Next season I have a young spider female to put with that cinny male, (she's just through her second winter), so I'm hoping for something special from that. For now I'll take what I get and go from there. Got a little work to get an incubator set up yet, but I have all the pieces, (thermostat, extra tank, heat rope, etc, etc), even have baby tubs set up in my rack just waiting for hatchlings. I have an old mini fridge I could use, but don't have room for it and really don't want to carry it up my stairs, (it's really a pig), so I probably will do the old submersible heater trick in an old aquarium or something similar, (run by a Herpstat of course)......cool stuff!

S

Yup 50/50 on that pairing

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