new florida contest

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Originally Posted by wes

well it should be a contest for who can capture the most and then they can be taken to somewhere to be humanely euthanized. The first thing that popped into my head when i read this was a bunch of people just like the guy on youtube just hacking away with a machete... If it is going to be like hunting anything else then there should be tags and licenses and regulations on how it is done.

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nothing is humane in florida. They kill anything that moves, including each other. But is hunting really humane? How many deers take an arrow in the neck and run around for a few hours waiting to bleed out? How many ducks get blasted out of the air and land in a swamp and flop around in the mud in pain until a dog comes and drags them back to the hunter? Hunting is what it is. I get it and it has its place but overall, killing wild animals for sport(if you can call it that) is not humane.

I understand the problem in florida and see why they need to get it in check but i think this is the wrong way to do it and sends the wrong message to the general public. Leave it to florida to come up with a killing contest though.....

I just dont understand why I can't buy a Burm from a person in Texas because there are a few in the Everglades.

And I see that my previous link didn't work, but this one should.


http://urbanjunglesradio.webs.com/ap...sWl6M.facebook

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Originally Posted by eatgoodfood

And I see that my previous link didn't work, but this one should.


http://urbanjunglesradio.webs.com/ap...sWl6M.facebook

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Great write up. I agree 100%

So you can't go out and fish without a permit BUT... You can go into the Everglades to hunt giant snakes.

You can go there and kill snakes for cash prizes BUT... I would be fined huge amounts if I caught one and gave it a nice life across state lines.

I can't believe Fish and Wildlife is behind this.


Why can't anything be done the right way?

This contest doesn require a permit. Any other time it does. I lived out there. And my good friends live there inculding my gf. We're all huge reptile people. Some even burms and retic breeders. We all hate the burms there. And unless your a resident you can't say nothing honestly. It's there congress. Not yours. I feel your pain. It's wrong. But have you been to Florida and seen one first hand. Iv seen videos. There aggressive. We're talking 100+thousand 8-12 foot hugry aggressive snakes. Iv had a aggressive burm. 12 feet. Your not catching that bro. Sorry. You and 2 others yes. But unless your a python hunter with that experience. (Not sayin your not) you gonna need a team. IMO it stupid dangerous. So may god be with these poor reptiles because there just living. Not there fault a hurricane wiped out a dumb placed quarantined station. However they don't belong there and there thriving. The fact they found a 17 foot burm with 87 eggs. Shocked and scared the crap out everyone. Even as far north as me. (Jacksonville). So if you want to attempt to run a rescue for burms. You would have to be the richest man ever.
But I garentee they'll suffer in captivity. Not enough money to care. It would set us into a triple economic fail. 100 thousand+ burms. Wtf. How much space. The already gravid.
Heat. Food. Cages. That's trillions of US dollars. That's damage hurricane Andrew would continue to rack up. Pointless. I breed burms. I love burm. I wish there was a better way. I DO.
But there's not. It wouldn be safe and it def wouldn put a dent on it. This might acually help. But the fact is. There there to stay. All you can do is population control. And they can live futher up north. They survived the cold snap. The coldest Florida ever been in how long?? And they made it.

I used to live down there when I was a kid, but that was years ago.
And anyone in the US has a voice on this because they are using the Everglades to push bans in every state.

I'm not saying that they are not a problem. I'm also not saying that in any way I could go catch one of these on my own. I rehabbed a 12' Burm for 2 years and understand, respect the power they have. My point was the fact I couldn't cross state lines if I wanted to rescue one.

As the link stated. People are going to get hurt, photos will shown, news links will be all over the web. The problem will still be there and The HSUS will have more fire to push their agendas.

There is a right and wrong way to do something. Do I know the right way to fix this problem? No.
Nothing good is going to come from this.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

So you can't go out and fish without a permit BUT... You can go into the Everglades to hunt giant snakes.

You can go there and kill snakes for cash prizes BUT... I would be fined huge amounts if I caught one and gave it a nice life across state lines.

I can't believe Fish and Wildlife is behind this.


Why can't anything be done the right way?

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You can fish without a permit on your own property.

Honestly? I see this as no different than hunting other invasive species. I.e wild boar. I swear. The reptile community can be just as bad as the horse community.

Horse community: "omg. horse slaughter is bad! Let's ban it. Why are there so many abused horses now? Why can't I sell my horse?"
Reptle community: "Don't ban our snakes! Omg! They're killing snakes that are invasive, shame on them!"

Like it or not, the snakes need to go, and until they are, the opposition will continue to use them against us.

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Originally Posted by Raptor

You can fish without a permit on your own property.

Honestly? I see this as no different than hunting other invasive species. I.e wild boar. I swear. The reptile community can be just as bad as the horse community.

Horse community: "omg. horse slaughter is bad! Let's ban it. Why are there so many abused horses now? Why can't I sell my horse?"
Reptle community: "Don't ban our snakes! Omg! They're killing snakes that are invasive, shame on them!"

Like it or not, the snakes need to go, and until they are, the opposition will continue to use them against us.

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To me killing the snakes is not an issue, its the way their doing it, opening it to the public. I think like many others do, that their just going to windup feeding HSUS and PETA more fuel. But why are the pythons the only issue were sensationalizing here, why not cats, why not invasive plants, among many other issues. If your going to aggressively after one species, why not let them kill all the cats for money too?

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Originally Posted by eatgoodfood

To me killing the snakes is not an issue, its the way their doing it, opening it to the public. I think like many others do, that their just going to windup feeding HSUS and PETA more fuel. But why are the pythons the only issue were sensationalizing here, why not cats, why not invasive plants, among many other issues. If your going to aggressively after one species, why not let them kill all the cats for money too?

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They do it with boar.

The reason why they don't do it with cats is because they tend to be protected under laws. Doesn't prevent people from killing them though.