spider wobble

thanks guys.

The degrees of wobble:

showing almost nothing but a slight head tilt
shaking head back and forth
corkscrewing

We bred two adult bees in 2010/2011 and neither wobble any more than a tiny head tilt, they do not corkscrew or shake their heads.
Both females produced corkscrewing babies.

All spiders are inflicted with the "wobble" but some take it to the extreme :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by carlson

I thought some spiders an snakes with spider gene don't wobble or wobble just a little while others have a very bad wobble and it shows up worse when they are excited or overly stimulated.

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They all wobble or show signs, slight head tilt, cant roll back over, corkscrewing, slight headnod... But I've noticed their are few big time breeders (even on youtube) who refuse to admit that they all do. Though yes, to different degrees. My baby isnt that bad, but it is possible for it to get worse as she gets older. Her dad was a bee, and he had it really bad. It might now show as much but they still carry it.

And I'm a not big time breeder (never even bred BPs) that says that not all spiders wobble. I have never once seen even the slightest sign of a head tilt with my spider girl, so I can say from my girl that not all spiders wobble. I am not saying that she won't ever produce any offspring that could wobble or even corkscrew, I'm just saying that my girl doesn't wobble.

I can't see any wobble in my spider male either.

I won't buy a spider or any animal with a wobble, I'm only one so it may not affect sales much but just wanted to let you know that others may feel the same way.

Its a dead horse beaten over and over and over

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I have a bumblebee and a butterbee two snakes that have the spider gene. The only time i see them wobble their heads is when they eat.

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Originally Posted by gsarchie

And I'm a not big time breeder (never even bred BPs) that says that not all spiders wobble. I have never once seen even the slightest sign of a head tilt with my spider girl, so I can say from my girl that not all spiders wobble. I am not saying that she won't ever produce any offspring that could wobble or even corkscrew, I'm just saying that my girl doesn't wobble.

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Just because you don't notice it, doesn't mean it's not there. I've had a spider male at 1500g for over a year now and I used to swear up and down that he didn't wobble. Now that I have had, interacted with, held, and seen many ball pythons, I can say that 100% he does. It's very very subtle but its there. Your female has wobble. I can say that even with not ever seeing her. Here is a test. Hold your snake by her middle so her tail and head drape over your hand on opposite sides. Watch her try and find back to your hand. Watch her closely. Watch for a little head tilt, loopy head movements, and generally not knowing exactly which way is up. That's wobble. Not all spin and flip all over the place. All spiders wobble. Period. End of story. Finito. Kaput. Some have it way less than others. All have it and its random chance on how much the babies will get.


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