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What morph is tis ??

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  • 11-15-2012, 06:14 PM
    Tempestas
    I had a male and female do this earlier this year, Both related ( Brother and Sister ) Both also changed colour within the same week.

    This is how the male looked before his dramatic change,

    http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...96492164_n.jpg

    Straight after he shed,

    http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...98736299_n.jpg

    This is him now with the female,

    http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...35852963_n.jpg

    He's gone exceptionally dirty in colouration and the female who went through the same change is nearly back to her normal colour. Still unknown to what happened and only time will tell in the future IF it's genetic.
  • 11-16-2012, 01:15 AM
    het
    Cool....how long did ur male maintain his silver?
  • 11-16-2012, 03:31 AM
    loonunit
    Re: What morph is tis ??
    Quote:
    That is the craziest thing I've ever seen. (Okay, probably not. But it's pretty crazy!)
  • 11-16-2012, 05:40 PM
    Tempestas
    Re: What morph is tis ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by het View Post
    Cool....how long did ur male maintain his silver?

    Not long to be honest I had a lot of people say it must be due to food items but I ruled that out because none of my others changed colour.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    That is the craziest thing I've ever seen. (Okay, probably not. But it's pretty crazy!)

    Lol thanks it was pretty crazy indeed :)
  • 11-17-2012, 09:47 AM
    Corey Woods
    Looks like what people refer to as a ":cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ter". Basically, if you let you snake sit in a wet, nasty, soupy, crappy mess for a long period of time the acid in the poop will eat away at the pigment in the skin. Once the snake sheds the snake looks "axanthic like" but then goes back to normal after a few sheds.

    If it was a genetic condition the snake would be the same colour all over. Not one colour on the sides and then another wavy colour on the top. On the original posters snake you can see how there is a darker wavy patch from the head part way down the spine. That is where they weren't covered in nasty poop for as long.

    Corey
  • 11-18-2012, 06:07 PM
    Tempestas
    Re: What morph is tis ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Corey Woods View Post
    Looks like what people refer to as a ":cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ter". Basically, if you let you snake sit in a wet, nasty, soupy, crappy mess for a long period of time the acid in the poop will eat away at the pigment in the skin. Once the snake sheds the snake looks "axanthic like" but then goes back to normal after a few sheds.

    If it was a genetic condition the snake would be the same colour all over. Not one colour on the sides and then another wavy colour on the top. On the original posters snake you can see how there is a darker wavy patch from the head part way down the spine. That is where they weren't covered in nasty poop for as long.

    Corey

    Hmm Corey this theory you have that they have been sitting in wet, nasty, soupy, crappy mess for a long period of time. You are basically implying that we aren't keeping our animals correctly!

    Now see the funny thing is MY two that had the colour change didn't even defecate whilst in shed so your explanation is invalid and not only the fact that what you say would be practically impossible for BOTH snakes in separate tubs to crap at exactly the same time to sit in the same position and covered in the same amount of crap ! Also you state they go back to normal yet my male is far from looking normal and the female is no where near the same as she was and they have shed god knows how many times since those photos.

    Perhaps you might of experienced this with having a tub full of crap but I can certainly say I haven't! Now this theory you have put forward really is crap to an extent, Out of ALL the people that have seen the photographs of my two you are the first and ONLY person to say what you have. So just for the record MY snakes have never and will never be kept in their own feces or wet soupy conditions I can't comment about others but I know for sure mine don't!

    I am actually offended by what you have said Corey implying that I keep my snakes in such a way that it would be detrimental to their own health, :colbert:

    Taken last night, Obviously this isn't their normal colouration.

    http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...79149034_n.jpg
  • 11-22-2012, 09:24 AM
    Corey Woods
    Sorry that you took offense. However, the majority of the ones that change colour do it under the described conditions. Yours maybe different but the animal originally posted is most definately a sh*tter.
  • 11-22-2012, 01:35 PM
    satomi325
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tempestas View Post
    Not long to be honest I had a lot of people say it must be due to food items but I ruled that out because none of my others changed colour.



    Lol thanks it was pretty crazy indeed :)

    Just because all of your snakes didn't turn doesn't mean its not a nutritional deficiency. It could be the individuals themselves that have some sort of internal nutrient processing issue. And the color change did occur in siblings, which may hint at their similar and/or possible issues.

    I'm not saying your snakes are nutrient deficient, but you shouldn't rule it out because the others aren't showing the same signs.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
  • 11-22-2012, 08:16 PM
    Tempestas
    Re: What morph is tis ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Corey Woods View Post
    Sorry that you took offense. However, the majority of the ones that change colour do it under the described conditions. Yours maybe different but the animal originally posted is most definately a sh*tter.

    I do know that some have changed due to having been kept in bad conditions, To be honest I wish they never did change they were much better before the strange colour change.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Just because all of your snakes didn't turn doesn't mean its not a nutritional deficiency. It could be the individuals themselves that have some sort of internal nutrient processing issue. And the color change did occur in siblings, which may hint at their similar and/or possible issues.

    I'm not saying your snakes are nutrient deficient, but you shouldn't rule it out because the others aren't showing the same signs.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

    Hi Satomi,

    It's only these two out of the entire group of siblings that have changed colour, I did consider it being due to the food prey but to be honest it's not happened before and hasn't happened since if it was due to a deficiency then surely it would go away once the deficiency was corrected and if it wasn't corrected then surely they would be experiencing it all the time plus I would expect it to be seen more often considering the sheer amount of ball's in peoples collections.

    I have looked at all different ways and I don't claim it to be genetic if anything it's annoying because they were beautiful before hand and now the male just looks dirty.
  • 11-22-2012, 11:25 PM
    het
    Re: What morph is tis ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Corey Woods View Post
    Sorry that you took offense. However, the majority of the ones that change colour do it under the described conditions. Yours maybe different but the animal originally posted is most definately a sh*tter.

    Tks for the uncalled for comment.
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