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  • 10-22-2012, 08:15 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Here's a theory.. Aren't many insect eggs able to withstand extreme temperatures? Maybe the rat already had fly eggs on it. Maybe the rat sat in a pile of dead rats just long enough at the rodent place to have a fly lay eggs on it before it was frozen. Then the eggs went into a sort of stasis. The snake ate it and it may have either been a little large, or possibly had begun to rot slightly before it was frozen which caused the regurge. Viola. The eggs hatch because they were now warm and had not been in contact with the stomach acids long enough to destroy them?

    Possibility?
  • 10-22-2012, 08:26 PM
    satomi325
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    Here's a theory.. Aren't many insect eggs able to withstand extreme temperatures? Maybe the rat already had fly eggs on it. Maybe the rat sat in a pile of dead rats just long enough at the rodent place to have a fly lay eggs on it before it was frozen. Then the eggs went into a sort of stasis. The snake ate it and it may have either been a little large, or possibly had begun to rot slightly before it was frozen which caused the regurge. Viola. The eggs hatch because they were now warm and had not been in contact with the stomach acids long enough to destroy them?

    Possibility?

    I would agree with you 100%, but it was a live feeder.

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  • 10-22-2012, 08:53 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Flies can get into tiny crevices. Unless you have an airtight bin for the snake, the bug could have gotten in and back out. It might not have been a big house fly but a smaller type, but even houseflies squeeze through tiny spaces.

    I would tend to think it's way more likely for a fly to get in and back out, rather than fly eggs managing to survive the stomach acid to hatch. But technically a live rat could have had some fly eggs stuck to the fur and then they survive the stomach acid and don't fall off or come off in the stomach or throat and so are still on the slimy regurgitated rat, and viable... and then hatched.
  • 10-22-2012, 10:30 PM
    satomi325
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    Flies can get into tiny crevices. Unless you have an airtight bin for the snake, the bug could have gotten in and back out. It might not have been a big house fly but a smaller type, but even houseflies squeeze through tiny spaces.

    I would tend to think it's way more likely for a fly to get in and back out, rather than fly eggs managing to survive the stomach acid to hatch. But technically a live rat could have had some fly eggs stuck to the fur and then they survive the stomach acid and don't fall off or come off in the stomach or throat and so are still on the slimy regurgitated rat, and viable... and then hatched.

    Possibly.

    These maggots were quite large(a little smaller or equal size to botfly larvae). Larger than the air holes, which makes me think your secondary hypothesis. Unless the larvae stage is bigger than the adult stage?? Or they have a really fast growth rate in the past 2 days ......


    Either way, it was one of the nastiest things I've ever seen and I've seen quite a lot of gruesome stuff that didn't bother me. I just hope not have a repeat experience again......

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  • 10-23-2012, 12:38 AM
    loonunit
    Re: Regurgitated feeder + Maggots
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    I would agree with you 100%, but it was a live feeder.

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    Oh, well, there you go. Then a fly must have gotten after the regurge somhow and laid the eggs. Pretty sure a weekend would be enough time for maggots to grow to size.

    Also: :upset: :puke: :dead:
  • 10-23-2012, 02:22 AM
    HeadSetJones
    This post and thread made me laugh at the responses and feel extremely sympathetic for you. Had only one regurg in my time so far. *Knock on Wood* Good luck. It's a bummer. Here's to your scaly friends keeping their food down in the future.:gj:



    P.S. Might wanna invest into some fly tape just to have a little piece of mind. Hang it near the snake enclosures.
  • 10-23-2012, 07:32 AM
    DooLittle
    Well, I have no insight to offer you unfortunately, I think all has been thought of, just sympathy. Maggots are absolutely disgusting. :( Sorry.

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  • 10-23-2012, 08:51 AM
    WarriorPrincess90
    Perhaps the rat consumed fly eggs that were in its feed? A stretch, but not impossible. Then the eggs hatched inside the rat after it died, causing it to begin rotting, which in turn caused the regurge? I dunno. It's another thought.
  • 10-23-2012, 08:53 AM
    MrLang
    Fruit fly larvae are visually larger than adult fruit flies and the live in almost every home. The fly's presence is not the concern here, but the snake who regurged. Hopefully they are OK.



    Bubbles took his second F/T recently and decided after coiling it that he'd rather sweep it into his hide and leave it there for 2 days rather than eat it. What a jerk.
  • 10-23-2012, 09:49 AM
    Mike41793
    Wow thats nasty. When my cinny girl went off feed i fed her late one nite, at like 11 and then had work the next morning. So i checked her when i got home at 2:30 and she hadnt eaten it. I thought THAT smell of 15hr old, non-regurged rat was nasty, cant imagine what yours smelled like lol.
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