Fire

All three look legit to me, whether or not you buy one is entirely up to you. I'd ask for an outside picture in mild lighting(overcast) without a flash.

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I'd probably ask for a full clutch shot and the pairing that produced them too.

They look like fires to me but not high quality ones. In fairness my normal in that pic is a really dark normal and the lighting make him look weird. Heres a couple outdoor shots of him:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/18/ezy8e7e6.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/18/u4a3yta6.jpg

You wanna look for creamy colors, good blushing, a nice head stamp, and i prefer a more reduced pattern. The fires in those pics look too busy and not creamy enough for ny taste.

What about the one on the far left? He seems a bit brighter than others and less busy. I want to get a fire in hopes of making super fire in the future.

Oops, I meant to type "she"

As john1982 said, ask for pics of the parents and outdoor shots if you want.

Personally, i would still pass on them.

Ask the breeder what the pairing was and clutch shots to put your mind at ease.

There certainly was no concern with selective breeding when that breeder produced those fires.. I too would pass on them. They do look to be fires but low quality. People really should build their collections with the highest quality, obvious morphs they can find. The market is being flooded with terrible representations of all these morphs in the last couple years due to so many new people getting into it and breeding whatever they can get their hands on with no regard for quality.

This is only hurting them because if you shop around you'll see that the breeders who are selling the same morphs but of an eye popping quality are getting more money out of them. Plus they sell a lot faster and they aren't sitting on those babies for months or a year.

Never settle. Get what you want but get a nice one in the process.

I believe they are fires. but not the quality of fire I would want for breeding.

Fire's should be bold and bright. As babies, they should be very yellow, with heavy blushing and bright headstamps. Big belly flames are also good. I am very particular about snakes I buy or keep for breeding. That selectivity led me to be blessed with some amazing fires this season.

Here is a photo of one of mine to compare.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...firefemale.jpg

See that super bright yellow coloring? That is key to a quality fire baby. As they mature, they turn creamy instead of yellow.

Here is one with killer blushing, this one is a male.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...umber8-boy.jpg

See the huge difference in these babies compared to the ones in your photo ?

Gale

There certainly was no concern with selective breeding when that breeder produced those fires.. I too would pass on them. They do look to be fires but low quality. People really should build their collections with the highest quality, obvious morphs they can find. The market is being flooded with terrible representations of all these morphs in the last couple years due to so many new people getting into it and breeding whatever they can get their hands on with no regard for quality.

This is only hurting them because if you shop around you'll see that the breeders who are selling the same morphs but of an eye popping quality are getting more money out of them. Plus they sell a lot faster and they aren't sitting on those babies for months or a year.

Never settle. Get what you want but get a nice one in the process.

Some like reduced, some like busy, light, dark, yellow, grey, blushed, contrasty, etc, etc.. If you ask 20 people what the ideal fire is, you'll probably get 20 different answers. Get what you think is nice and strive towards producing animals that put a smile on your face.

I agree that u should get some more natural light pics. They may just be under funny lighting, and fires do get better with age. You do want to make sure you get a quality hatchling tho, so it just gets better and better...