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  • 10-18-2012, 11:13 PM
    joebad976
    Huh, that is weird. Does it seem like he is hurting her? Take a video and post it. Maybe it is his way of courting the ladies.
  • 10-18-2012, 11:34 PM
    .G&S Royal pythons.
    I am assuming you are introducing the male to the females enclosure? If so try it the other way around, could be the stress of a new enclosure is spazing him out.
  • 10-19-2012, 12:23 PM
    CBconstrictors
    I have tried introducing him into her enclosure and her into his enclosure. As far as is he hurting her, he did push down on one hard enough to push urates (spell check) and some poop out of one. I'll try to take a video and post it up when i get a chance.
  • 10-19-2012, 12:49 PM
    MorphMaster
    What the ...?! That is weird, you started with male to female, good... then female to male good... I am curious what you mean though... I have never seen my ball pythons direct anger towards each other
  • 10-19-2012, 01:39 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Sounds like male X male anger issues, lol.

    Quote:

    Also, all the females have been popped by me and two other people, so they are females lol.
    I have never seen females fight each other, I also have not seen males fight other females, only try to pin them down to breed them.
    Maybe that's what you are seeing and the female isn't ready so she's refusing him."?

    I have seen males fight, what you describe sounds just like a male X male pairing.
  • 10-19-2012, 01:55 PM
    joebad976
    LOL this is weird...Jerry may be right maybe he is pinning her down trying to mate and she is refusing. You said he is a big boy maybe she is likes them a little smaller. ;)

    I did have something similar to this happen last year where I introduced a male and all of a sudden all ruckus broke loose. He tipped the water bowl, was slamming his body all over the place but in 15 minutes he was locked up with her and she laid this year so wasn't male vs male aggression.
  • 10-19-2012, 02:13 PM
    MorphMaster
    Hmmm...... There may be something here with attitudes. I am familiar with tail wagging, but at least my perception says that this is much more aggresive. I believe it is kingsnakes that are big into pinning females down (feel free to correct me.) If you have time, could you post a video of this? I'd certainly appreciate it and im sure others would... I can only pop hatchlings as im just starting out, so try gettig a probe kit if you have the money. Shallow is female, deep is male. Probe a snake you know is a female then one you know is a male. That should help you really get the feel for it
  • 10-19-2012, 02:40 PM
    snakesRkewl
    I have a very aggressive clown male that is 2400+ grams, most of the time he's a smoozer and there's no issues.
    Other times he's quite aggressive and won't take no for an answer and what I see is him trying to pin them down and hold them until they give in.
    He'll just patiently lay on them until they decide enough is enough :rolleye2:
  • 10-19-2012, 02:56 PM
    joebad976
    Re: male pastel doesn't want to breed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    I have a very aggressive clown male that is 2400+ grams, most of the time he's a smoozer and there's no issues.
    Other times he's quite aggressive and won't take no for an answer and what I see is him trying to pin them down and hold them until they give in.
    He'll just patiently lay on them until they decide enough is enough :rolleye2:

    Sounds like Snake Rape to me :O. No means NO

    LOL
  • 10-19-2012, 03:06 PM
    shelby9189
    I think a video would be great. I have laughed at some of the posts on here. Some men are just very pushy maybe he is pinning her down lol:D
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