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  • 10-11-2012, 03:08 PM
    gsarchie
    I was thinking the same thing about your comments Mike. I almost posted a response in regards to your but didn't have the time to do so. If you nor anyone close to you have had to deal with legitimate depression then you are a lucky man. I've never been depressed myself but have had severe issues with my in-laws.

    To the OP - My father grew up in NH and my mother grew up in WI. Why in the heck would your sister want to leave NH for WI in the first place? :P WI smells like cow poop and NH is AWESOME! You have so much so close in NH, from Boston to Old Orchard Beach to the "mountains" up your way, going fishing for trout up north and catching stripers in the ocean, heading up to Maine to dig your own steamers, Nor' Easters, The RED SOX, moose hunting, bear hunting, deer hunting, snowboarding up in VT, BOSTON, moose hunting, trout fishing, catching salamanders out in the woods, the Celtics, the RED SOX!, and the list goes on and on. Well, at least that is what NH is to me, anyway. :D Sorry if I got a little carried away there, but if it were me I'd be dying to get back to NH myself.
  • 10-11-2012, 03:14 PM
    Mike41793
    Cant forget the pats or the bruins! Also log cabins/houses are awesome! The only bad things cold weather of course :(

    No a few people in my family have depression issues, i just dont understand it. I have an abnormal mindset i guess lol.
  • 10-11-2012, 03:39 PM
    GuNDeZZZ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Cant forget the pats or the bruins! Also log cabins/houses are awesome! The only bad things cold weather of course :(

    No a few people in my family have depression issues, i just dont understand it. I have an abnormal mindset i guess lol.

    Too bad there's a NHL lockout right now... I miss my Bruins.

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  • 10-12-2012, 01:34 AM
    gsarchie
    Bruins, yes, but not a Pats fan. Broncos all the way here baby! I don't get depressin myself and in my opinion is a weakness. I've taken a friend to a mental health facility once after he "tried" to kill himself a few times, but I lost a lot of respect for him afterwards. I know that serious depression is a medical issue, but most depression that I have seen is just people feeling sorry for themselves.
  • 10-12-2012, 02:18 AM
    Raptor
    Re: Not sure what to do...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gsarchie View Post
    Bruins, yes, but not a Pats fan. Broncos all the way here baby! I don't get depressin myself and in my opinion is a weakness. I've taken a friend to a mental health facility once after he "tried" to kill himself a few times, but I lost a lot of respect for him afterwards. I know that serious depression is a medical issue, but most depression that I have seen is just people feeling sorry for themselves.

    Bolded part made me rage for a bit. If you don't get depression, then how on earth do you know that people are "just feeling sorry for themselves"? Depression is an avalanche of sorts. A negative thing happens, and it spirals down from there, usually because the person is talking down to themselves. It's very hard to stop these thoughts and even harder to pull oneself out of it. It also makes me angry that you consider it a weakness. It's a chemical imbalance that in most cases, people are born with. Is diabetes now considered a weakness, as well? This kind of attitude is why most people are hesitant about getting the help they need: they're afraid of being judged, told they need to pull their pants up, or any other myriad of things.
  • 10-12-2012, 04:23 AM
    gsarchie
    Maybe I should have been more specific. Legitimate depression, the kind caused by hormonal imbalances in the body, is not a weakness, it is a medical condition. I have seen some people with this type of depression and it is a serious issue. One of my best friends and his wife have both worked in mental institutions where they have dealt with people suffering from severe depression and I've learned more from them about the condition than any other single source. What I have no sympathy for are people that have a negative experience and then beat themselves up to the point where they cause themselves to become clinically depressed. I've gone through some exceptionally tough things in my life but I've never sat around and beat myself up about it to the point where I needed medication or counseling or considered taking my own life. People that do that, in my opinion, show a weakness of character, not a problem with a hormonal imbalance. I've said my piece and will read any response but am done hijacking this thread.
  • 10-12-2012, 04:54 AM
    Raptor
    Re: Not sure what to do...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gsarchie View Post
    Maybe I should have been more specific. Legitimate depression, the kind caused by hormonal imbalances in the body, is not a weakness, it is a medical condition. I have seen some people with this type of depression and it is a serious issue. One of my best friends and his wife have both worked in mental institutions where they have dealt with people suffering from severe depression and I've learned more from them about the condition than any other single source. What I have no sympathy for are people that have a negative experience and then beat themselves up to the point where they cause themselves to become clinically depressed. I've gone through some exceptionally tough things in my life but I've never sat around and beat myself up about it to the point where I needed medication or counseling or considered taking my own life. People that do that, in my opinion, show a weakness of character, not a problem with a hormonal imbalance. I've said my piece and will read any response but am done hijacking this thread.

    Then I have no respect for you.

    I have clinical depression, and was diagnosed at five. If something negative does happen, I do beat myself up over it and get depressed.

    But hey, I guess not everyone can be as mentally perfect as you. We're just, as you put so eloquently, "weak".
  • 10-12-2012, 05:28 AM
    Kodieh
    I agree with the weakness comment. But, I agree in a different way. I feel that there are two types of depression. The "depression" after getting a bad grade, performing poorly at work, or the loss of a superficial relationship or other arbitrary association. Then there is the clinical depression, the "real deal" of you will; this really is a serious problem and does need physical work, therapy, and sometimes medication to just survive under. I don't see it possible for people to work themselves into this state, I think they suffer from the superficial depression that "occurs" when things dot swing their way 90% of the time. Whenever someone who says their depressed, I have a tendency to look down on them; how dare they tread on a serious problem, detract from the seriousness of the problem, by calling the mood swing they're in depression? Besides, most people who have the "real deal" usually admit to it in a "I have been/was/currently suffer from clinical depression."

    So what I'm getting at, is that what the other poster means is that he doesn't believe people can work themselves into the chemical imbalance that is depression. I mean, no one just suddenly comes out of schizophrenia (one person ever has, pretty rare stuff), so I reason the same case can be made for clinical depression. Again, I see the superficial depression, the "case of the mondays" crap, is weakness. People can't just take a hit and not throw a pity party royally upset me when they don't have the chemical imbalance. Tomorrow will be kinder, as long as you make it so.


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  • 10-12-2012, 05:41 AM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    Then I have no respect for you.

    I have clinical depression, and was diagnosed at five. If something negative does happen, I do beat myself up over it and get depressed.

    But hey, I guess not everyone can be as mentally perfect as you. We're just, as you put so eloquently, "weak".

    I wasnt trying to make the point that i think im better than you or that people with depression are weak, i was trying to make the point that i dont understand what the difference would be between you and i were something to happen to us. I dont understand it. Why if something bad happens to us do we react differently? What is your definition of something negative? Beause i feel like i encounter negative things allthe time. Could i beat myself up and get depressed about stuff? Well sure, i could, but i guess i just dont for whatever reason. Once again, im not trying to say im better than you bc of that, i just wanna know what would cause that? The hormonal imbalance someone mentioned or something else...?
  • 10-12-2012, 10:13 AM
    gsarchie
    Re: Not sure what to do...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    Then I have no respect for you.

    I have clinical depression, and was diagnosed at five. If something negative does happen, I do beat myself up over it and get depressed.

    But hey, I guess not everyone can be as mentally perfect as you. We're just, as you put so eloquently, "weak".

    Don't worry, because as a mentally perfect person, I won't beat myself about you not respecting me. :rolleyes:
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