Mini Rant + Suggestions needed.

I am leery of people just seeing/holding my snakes in my own home. I couldnt imagine lending one out to someone. The only time i would even consider this is if it was to a member on here that i knew. But pretty much all of them have their own balls so i dont ever see that being a realistic scenario lol.

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

I don't think saying: "Hey, I'm not comfortable giving this snake back to you to care for since you didn't care for it to begin with" is not polite at all, it's the truth. I sure wouldn't lend him one of my snakes again if he didn't care for it - tough cookies for him. I'm glad you have her back though and she's getting well again with proper care. I'm surprised the heat pad didn't burn her through the tub when left unregulated, yikes.

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ditto..no need to be polite..:colbert:

I just thought it was so easy? Use the 9 mins of breakto care for the snake each day THAT'S IT. But I guess that was too much

Oh wow, yea I never would have lent any of my snakes out to anyone. There's very, very few ppl I would even trust to care for my snakes if I was going to be away for awhile, let alone to lend for proposes other than them needing care. I don't understand how he can even think he's in the right at all wanting to continue having the snake....how do you not clean or feed it?!

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Originally Posted by Coleslaw007

....how do you not clean or feed it?!

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i know right?!

That's completely unacceptable! Be as polite as you can but like some of the others said be firm! Lay it on him in no uncertain terms that if he is not going to take proper care of it there is no way you will let him use it again. As others said he can buy one of his own if he is going to treat it this way. Sometimes you just have to set a friend straight whether they like it or not.

Wow. How awful. I agree with everyone else.
And tell him not cleaning the enclosure is the equivalent of not flushing the toilet for 3 weeks straight. It's very unsanitary and unhealthy. The melted tub sounds frightening, but I'm glad your snake didn't burn to death .... And if he didn't feed the snake, what happened to the rats you gave him? Did he starve them as well?
Overall, a huge case of neglect. Not to mention animal cruelty and endangerment.


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Just lay it out as you have to us. Tell him to take $50 and go buy a cheap normal from someone or to look one up on craigslist. If he wants to kill a snake let it be his own.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

"I'm sorry but I gave you very specific instructions on how I wished you to care for my pet. Because you failed to follow through on most of the instructions, put my pet at risk with a dangerous set up, allowed my pet to become ill and did not treat the illness, I will not allow you to care for my pet again. You may tell your students that until you can follow the instructions given, you will not be displaying any of my animals again."

Since you went overboard with specific instructions, to make it as EASY and FOOLPROOF as possible and he failed in so many ways, I would not really attempt to sugar coat much of anything.

You could also point out it was the equivalent of him taking your dog and tying it out in the sun without water or food for 3 days while it was sick. 3 weeks without food isn't a big deal, but unregulated heat, untreated RI, no fresh water, filthy conditions... that's neglect and endangerment.

On a side note, I've ALWAYS ended up regretting every single pet I've sent into a classroom situation to date. Every time, they say "I'll do it right" and every time the animal ends up in a poor situation, underfed, without proper heat, unregulated heat, dirty or no water, dirty caging... EVERY time. I'm sure that there are wonderfully responsible teachers keeping classroom pets in flawless conditions. I sure haven't encountered them myself yet.

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I agree with this wholeheartedly, you told this person EXACTLY how to do everything that needed to be done to keep the snake healthy and this person ignored everything you told them. I would take that snake and not give it back. It's as simple as that. "I gave you this animal with the confidence that you would take good care of it, you ignored everything that I told you and I come here and find my animal unfed and sick in terrible conditions. You have disrespected me by asking for the animal and saying that you would take care of it and clearly that has not been the case. I am going to take this animal and nurse it back to health, and don't expect to get another animal from me in the near future. You have gone beyond disrespecting me, you have disrespected and injured my animal." (That's what I would say)

I personally had a teacher in elementary school who had a ball python in class for us in 5th grade. She took care of the animal because it was HER PET, not a pet that was borrowed. I think that makes the difference... In this case my teacher deeply cared for the reptiles that she had in the class (two bearded dragons, a rat and the BP) and she took great care of them while also educating the class on the proper care of them. In my class the students all had different chores to do to take care of them and people fell in love with the BP. Everything was going fine until some girl in the class decided to touch the rat and then immediately go and try to play with the snake (he was big enough to eat rats) so the teacher had to take him home. In either case that is my experience with reptiles in the classroom... Like I said, I think it was a matter of the fact that it wasn't HIS pet so he didn't feel the responsibility in caring for it because he didn't pay for it or anything like that. Personally I'd charge him for any medical care that the snake will need... But I don't care about friends when it comes to hurting my animals...

A lot of good advice here... the only thing I disagree with is the "get your own snake to kill" mentality. I don't think this person should be encouraged to have another reptile in the classroom unless they can demonstrate a care for the animal's health and wellbeing, and that should be stressed.

"While I'm 100% for teaching kids about reptiles, I don't feel my animal was properly cared for. You should avoid having live animals in the classroom if there isn't time to take care of them."