Black Pastel?

Thanks for the heads up! I'll do my due diligence and find out about possible birth defects. I've only ever produced one clutch, so there is a lot to learn and research for me. I do want to make sure this is, in fact, a black pastel as it will affect what morph I invest in next.

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Not a black pastel... It is very nice though! I would take it ..... especially for free.

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Not to contradict you (as I really have no experience with this morph), but how are you able to tell? I have been trying to find how to classify it properly but can't find any traits it doesn't have that other black pastel images, etc demonstrate.

Thanks again for your help guys!

My guess would be a normal. I am pretty sure I see black flecks on the belly, and I think black pastels have a clear belly like cinnys.

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Originally Posted by Robert093090

This is my Black Pastel girl

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Beautiful snake! I have been into light coloration and bright/reduced morphs thus far, but I'm really liking the look of the black pastel pictures you guys posted.

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Originally Posted by Wonzzer

My guess would be a normal. I am pretty sure I see black flecks on the belly, and I think black pastels have a clear belly like cinnys.

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my black pastel has flecks on its belly too.

Very nice normal,I would get a nice fire or vanilla and breed it to yours, could produce some nice babies

I still can't tell if I have a black pastel or not.

This is the one the breeder said might have the gene:

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1b087b40.jpg

I don't know if the speckled belly is a trait of black pastel or not.

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9102704f.jpg

And here is my normal. Side by side one is much darker than the other one. And the normal has a solid while belly. I just don't know.Opinions?

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8326cf65.jpg

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Originally Posted by TheSnakeGuy

I still can't tell if I have a black pastel or not.

This is the one the breeder said might have the gene:

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1b087b40.jpg

I don't know if the speckled belly is a trait of black pastel or not.

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9102704f.jpg

And here is my normal. Side by side one is much darker than the other one. And the normal has a solid while belly. I just don't know.Opinions?

http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8326cf65.jpg

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both are normals. black pastels are co-dominant so either you have a visual or its a normal

Not a black pastel. Sorry

Thanks for the feedback again, guys! It would be helpful if the people that were able to tell it wasn't a black pastel would explain how they determined it. I do notice more of an "alien head" pattern on my snake vs the images posted by other members; is this what gives it away? I'm still quite happy with it, it's unlike any normal I've ever seen with how busy the pattern is and how much flaming and blushing its got. Should produce some nice babies for me nonetheless!

black pastels don't really have alien head patterns instead they have floating donut patterns and some long patterns that run along part of their bodies. also you can tell by their heads those lines that go from their nose towards the back of their heads is more faded.

hope this pics help point out some markers
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/...1990/019-1.jpg