What do you think I am???

Oh ok
Just thought she was something else cause we have a spider and he has no yellow on him.
She has very nice markings on her like the bubbles on her spine and I'm getting her for 170$

You're paying the price for a female spider, and not a 3 gene animal. What did the breeder tell you she was? There's absolutely no pastel or butter in her.

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As everyone has said, that's a normal spider.

definitely not a bumblebee, in no way shape or form a butter spider. sorry.

If the pairing was Pastel Butter X spider your odds would be:

1/8 Normal
1/8 Spider
1/8 Pastel
1/8 Butter
1/8 Bumble Bee
1/8 Butter Spider
1/8 Butter Pastel
1/8 butter pastel spider

Seeing that the other two genes that went into the parental pairing were co-dominate, neither of those mutations can be carried in a recessive way. You have yourself a spider.

Cheers

Yup, spider. They can all vary in looks.

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Originally Posted by decensored

definitely not a bumblebee, in no way shape or form a butter spider. sorry.

If the pairing was Pastel Butter X spider your odds would be:

1/8 Normal
1/8 Spider
1/8 Pastel
1/8 Butter
1/8 Bumble Bee
1/8 Butter Spider
1/8 Butter Pastel
1/8 butter pastel spider

Seeing that the other two genes that went into the parental pairing were co-dominate, neither of those mutations can be carried in a recessive way. You have yourself a spider.

Cheers

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If you get one of the normals from this breeding and bred it to a normal would you get all normals? Or would that normal carry genes of a spider and maybe atleast one of the babies be a spider?

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If you get one of the normals from this breeding and bred it to a normal would you get all normals? Or would that normal carry genes of a spider and maybe atleast one of the babies be a spider?

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No, they would all be normal. Only spiders and spider combos can make spiders because its a dominant trait. Spend a little time playing around with the genetic calculator on www.worldofballpythons.com it will help to learn what makes what.

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Sounds like you are buying a spider female at a spider female price. The breeder may have told you the pairing that produced her, but I would hope did not intimate that she is anything else but a spider. All the morphs involved in the pairing (Spider, Butter, Pastel) are dominant or co-dominant traits. If a dominant or co-dominant trait is in there, you can see it. If you can't see it, it's not there.

ok thanks for all your out put on this everyone greatly appreciated.Ill start looking on the Ballpython.net to see, its a great site.

thanks

PS . does anyone know how i take the post of now. lol

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PS . does anyone know how i take the post of now. lol

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Off?
You don't take posts off of the forums, it's here FOREVER!! ;)

As has been said, spiders vary a lot, some have high white, some are low white, some have a lot of orange scales and some have very little orange if any.
The price your paying is pretty much retail price on a female spider, enjoy, she's nice.