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  • 09-17-2012, 06:59 PM
    ironpython
    Gorgeous how much if you don't mind me asking.

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  • 09-17-2012, 07:01 PM
    hypnotixdmp
    OH YEAH....I did forget to tell you I do think he a beauty though!!!!
  • 09-17-2012, 07:20 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Since there was no pastel in the breeding, it's not a pastel lesser, and you can't call it that, unless you breed it and it throws pastels.

    It's a great lesser.

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    ^^^ This...

    Morphs are not just a random occurrence.. You can't get a pastel if one of the parents wasn't a pastel or a pastel combo.. It's not a hidden gene. Pastel is a visual co-dom morph.

    That is a very nice, high quality Lesser.
  • 09-17-2012, 07:28 PM
    randy petruga
    Can someone show me a lesser that looks that yellow?, because I cant find anything like that using google. The closest thing that could come that yellow was a Pastel Lesser.
  • 09-17-2012, 07:44 PM
    ball-nut
    I would have said pastel lesser looking at the head and cleanliness. If father was mojo x lesser that would make it a Lucy, pastel can hide in there especially if it's the first season breeding it.
    However.
    You bought it as a lesser, and that's what it is until you breed it and produce pastels, I guess that's why its called "proving" it out. Up to you to prove it has pastel in it.

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  • 09-17-2012, 07:48 PM
    RoseyReps
    This is a good question...If the dad was a Lesser x mojave, (a bel) Isn't there a possibility that it had pastel in there aswell? I mean, how obvious is a pastel BEL vs a non? Your girl looks a lot like my girl, and she's a pastel lesser. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a mislabeled sire. I'm really interested to hear what the pro's have to say about ID'ing a pastel BEL (lesser x mojave x pastel), as this was a concern of mine for the future when breeding my Pastel Lesser girl to my Mojave boy.

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    Agreed with ball-nut, can't call it a pastel lesser until you prove it. But I think you have a good possibility. Just make sure her first breeding doesn't have any pastel in the boy.
  • 09-17-2012, 08:11 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by randy petruga View Post
    Can someone show me a lesser that looks that yellow?, because I cant find anything like that using google. The closest thing that could come that yellow was a Pastel Lesser.

    The Lessers I produce are that yellow.. The high contrast Lessers are..

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/18/pututugu.jpg

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/18/adahe6yd.jpg

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/18/ypu8y5e8.jpg

    They show the yellow even before first shed..
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/18/mu7ubevu.jpg


    Yours does have some amazing blushing and fading, especially on the head, but it still can't be called a pastel lesser if the breeder told you what the parents were and pastel wasn't one.

    It is possible for a Leucistic to be pastel and you wouldn't know until you bred it. The breeder should know if their Leucistic was produced by parents that had the pastel gene in them or not. If neither of IT'S parents were pastel, then it wouldn't even be a question.

    If one of the leucistics parents was a pastel, then the breeder should know this, and should know there is a possibility of it producing pastels, or pastel combos. In this case only breeding that Leucistic at least once or more would help to find out.

    So that's a question only the breeder can answer.
  • 09-17-2012, 08:33 PM
    DellaF
    Pretty BP:)
  • 09-18-2012, 05:47 AM
    randy petruga
    True I did buy it as a Lesser , But why can I not find any lemon yellow lessers for sale or even find a pick ? Thanks for the kind words all . we have a few years before she will bread . may be a Pastel Enchi .:)
  • 09-18-2012, 08:44 AM
    Simplex
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