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I usually fed inside,but i recently moved my snake to a larger rubbermaid with a substrate instead of just newspaper,so ive fed outside the last 2x.Not sure what ill do later.i have once held my snake while it constriced a mouse-i put her down to let her swallow it though.I know shes small,but i cant imagine why anyone would worry about being constricted by a bp,after feeling how much pressure is put on a mouse,a human wouldnt have a thing to worry about unless they had severe muscle atrophy possibly.(i always have people afraid to touch my bp cause they think they will get constricted by it)
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well i feed inside the cage. alot less hassle and i havent had a problem. with a snake that has a hot temper to begin with, i would feed outside the cage. but with a BP that will barely even attack a rodent, i dont worry.
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I tend to agree with Godfather. I feed in the enclosures, and so far, I haven't had a problem. As for the Pavlov theory, it's always a possibility, but that is one reason why I use the long pliers to introduce the prey. If the snake is going to start associating something with food, it will be the pliers, and not my hand.
I use plain old aged newspaper for my substrate. Since we subscribe to the local paper, I always have a steady supply. I choose papers that are a couple of weeks old (allows them to "breathe" to remove any potential residues from the printing process... a holdover practice from when my wife raised birds). Newspaper is reasonably absorbent, and cleaning the cage involves mostly just reaching in, removing the snake and the accessories, then rolling up the old paper, tossing it in the trash, and laying down a new layer of clean paper. Plus, there are no small pieces for the snake to potentially ingest. I like sticking with the old KISS rule.
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I feed inside the cage for these reasons:
-Its easier and more time efficient than moving all of my snakes back and forth from feeding containers.
-It reduces stress on the animals.
-I don't believe that feeding inside the cage is associated with bites at all.....snakes rely heavily on scent to feed and if you don't smell like a rodent you won't bet bit.....also I feed at night and handle my snakes in the daytime usually.
-I don't use loose substrates.
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Hydra feeds in a cardboard box, only because i have never tried to feed her inside her home. She lives on bark so it probably wouldn't be a good idea anyway. But shes gotten used to the cardboard box and knows shes being fed when she gets put in there. She has never bit me or even tried. Even after ive handled rodentes and mistakenly forget to wash my hands. But I think this could also be a good way to switch a finnicky eater from live to frozen if needed. Thats how I switched hydra. She was so used to eating live in the box, one day i wiggled a f/t in front of her and snatch constrict and consume. I skipped the prekilled stage and went right for it. Who knows, it could be just hydra but its something to try if thinking about switching from live to f/t. Worked for me...
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I feed outside my cages because I feed live prey items. Its easier for me to react if they are in a box if something goes wrong but my snakes are usally pretty deadly with there bites.
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Inside the cage seems to be the way for me, for all the reasons David said,Ive asked Alex Hue this same question and he responded by saying to feed in the cage where the animal feels more secure. I do use newsprint as a substrate and I do remove the water dish and one of the hides before feeding. Also I always place the F/T item inside using a pair of tongs so I dont see how my hand would ever be associated with food since my hand is never used to dispence it, plus I smell like ivory soap not like rat :D
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I once got criticized as being a bad keeper because I fed inside the cage. I must be a total newb, because if I don't feed outside the cage my snake will become rebellious and die. I feel awful.
Newbs accept the "You must feed outside the cage or your snake's head will fall off" policy without question. Good husbandry involves improvising. How can you find better alterior methods to keep balls if you don't veer slightly off course of accepted husbandry. Know the limits tho...
At least this is my philosophy. I'm writing the caresheet over because it's 8 months old. You learn a heck of a lot in 8 months, and the caresheet becomes out dated.
Each snake is individual, thats why some only eat live, dead, frozen thawed, gerbils, and other rodents.
Sorry for da rant, but the subject threw me into it.
My name is John, and I feed inside the cage. *breaks down into David's shoulder*
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I feed inside the cage for these reasons:
-Its easier and more time efficient than moving all of my snakes back and forth from feeding containers.
-It reduces stress on the animals.
-I don't believe that feeding inside the cage is associated with bites at all.....snakes rely heavily on scent to feed and if you don't smell like a rodent you won't bet bit.....also I feed at night and handle my snakes in the daytime usually.
-I don't use loose substrates.
Egg-zachery as stated above, except that I do handle my snake at night also.
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I think I'm going to feed outside... the main reason is loose substrate (coconut) but a secondary reason is just the hope that the snake will associate being put in the box with feeding and go into hunt mode out of habit... may not work but I figure it's worth a shot.. i'll probably make a soft cardboard hide for in the sterelite so he feels safer. Godfather, you crack me up haha. Thanks guys for all the input if i used newspaper I'd probably feed inside. . but I'm pretty into the display as I only have one member in my collection
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