Heartbreak............and triumph. {GRAPHIC PICTURE WARNING}

Oh Gale! I'm so sorry about the first little pied. I almost cried just reading about it. I can't begin to imagine...But congratulations on your beautiful survivor pied and het siblings! That little 50/50 pied is absolutely perfect and I pray that the little het pulls through and thrives. :)

This was an invaluable lesson for us all, I'm just sorry that you had to go through it. Thank you for sharing.

Sorry to hear you lost your first pied, but you did have some good come out of this clutch. I lost a pin and two normals this year (twisted cords) so I can relate.

Sorry for your loss Gale, we just lost our pewter het clown baby in the egg from the same thing, twisted umbilical, still kind of in shock over the whole thing :(

I know how hard this must be on you. To wait all that time and to suffer the loss. Thanks for posting, that had to be hard too. However, your posting my help others in a similar situation.

On a happier note, that pied looks beautiful. You are right, that tail is really cool. Hope they do well for you.

I too am sorry for ur loss but in my opinion that pied u got is 100% perfect and I love how the tip of the tail is perfectly white.


1.0 normal bp- Blitz
1.0 Nicaraguan boa- Gavin
0.1 Red Tail Boa- Tara

First: Twisted cords? I've hatched out over 1000 ball pythons eggs and NEVER have I seen a twisted cord. You people worry me...
Next, Gale; You can take this any way you want, but unfortunately, this entire season for you has been a wonderful education for those reading NOT to do what you've done; from cutting to early, to ripping holes in your eggs, temp spikes and horrifically deformed babies that weren't culled. It's sad that it all happened during the same season, but I really do hope that everyone can learn from your mistakes.
Mostly you.
Good luck next year.

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Originally Posted by mykee

First: Twisted cords? I've hatched out over 1000 ball pythons eggs and NEVER have I seen a twisted cord. You people worry me...
Next, Gale; You can take this any way you want, but unfortunately, this entire season for you has been a wonderful education for those reading NOT to do what you've done; from cutting to early, to ripping holes in your eggs, temp spikes and horrifically deformed babies that weren't culled. It's sad that it all happened during the same season, but I really do hope that everyone can learn from your mistakes.
Mostly you.
Good luck next year.

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Never? I had one last year. The cord was literally wrapped right around the snake, and then it was almost as if the yolk had threaded itself back through the loop. It was literally in a knot. I know the yolk itself didn't actually go back through, it must have been the snake. It happens. I don't know why though.

Not much comment on the rest of the thread...

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Originally Posted by mykee

First: Twisted cords? I've hatched out over 1000 ball pythons eggs and NEVER have I seen a twisted cord. You people worry me...
Next, Gale; You can take this any way you want, but unfortunately, this entire season for you has been a wonderful education for those reading NOT to do what you've done; from cutting to early, to ripping holes in your eggs, temp spikes and horrifically deformed babies that weren't culled. It's sad that it all happened during the same season, but I really do hope that everyone can learn from your mistakes.
Mostly you.
Good luck next year.

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Why does it not surprise me to see a post from you that screams "I know more than you and am better than everyone else"?

I, too, had a baby that had a twisted umbilical cord this season that didn't make it. To err is human, which from all your posts I see clearly you are not.

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Originally Posted by mykee

First: Twisted cords? I've hatched out over 1000 ball pythons eggs and NEVER have I seen a twisted cord. You people worry me...
Next, Gale; You can take this any way you want, but unfortunately, this entire season for you has been a wonderful education for those reading NOT to do what you've done; from cutting to early, to ripping holes in your eggs, temp spikes and horrifically deformed babies that weren't culled. It's sad that it all happened during the same season, but I really do hope that everyone can learn from your mistakes.
Mostly you.
Good luck next year.

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Talk about rude and insensitive.
Just because you have never experienced a twisted cord in one of your clutches, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You've been extremely lucky. You should be very thankful it hasn't happened to you instead of going off on Gale. She has already acknowledged her mistakes and she's blaming herself enough. Triple tapping isn't enough for you?

Every post I have seen from you is rather disturbing and rude. Guess I shouldn't be surprised of the lack of sympathy from someone who just "throws" everything that isn't perfect into the freezer.....

Well, I expect no less from a looser like you, however the wonderful thing about the internet is I can ignore the jerks I choose to, that is SUCH a wonderful feature here. You just continue to congratulate yourself on being the only ball python breeder ever in the universe who never had an accident.

Now, to those who's opinion actually matters to me.

Yes, this is a lesson learned the hard way. That is why I took the time in the midst of my grief to document what happened. For all those of us living in the real world where accidents do happen, like the member who's cat knocked over the incubator while he was a at work and spilled his clutch onto the floor, it is important to remember bad things can happen even to the best of us. I seem to remember Markus Jayne hatching an eyeless bumblebee recently. I'd love for someone to tell him what a bad person and breeder he is. Ben Seigel has a few eyeless as well. I guess we all know not to buy from them ever again.

All that aside, yes this was intended to show people with little experience, which includes myself, that things can and do go wrong, and steps that can be taken to help prevent it. Of course, contrary to what some people believe, you can do everything right and still have things go wrong, at least for those of us living on planet Earth. So yes, I know I caused this to happen. I never said I didn't. My intention is to show those who are new to breeding, that it's not going to be all sunshine and roses and perfect babies. Reality sucks, so learn from my mistake and don't make the same one yourself.

And as to culling the eyeless babies, they are eating and growing just fine and I see no reason to cull. By your definition, I guess all the blind people of the world should be put to death as well, hmmm? While we are at it, lets put all the deaf people to death, not to mention the babies born with defects. It is after all the responsible thing to do. Those born with dwarfism should go as well, and all those born without their full mental capacity can be added to the list. Of course, that would mean you would go as well, but hey I'm okay with that. Then we need to add the people like Sean Bradley who fell and was paralyzed from the chest down, since he's not perfect anymore. All the soldiers who have lost limbs in combat can go as well. As we can certainly clear out the old folks homes while we are at it, since most of them are no where near perfect anymore. All the police officers and firefighters who have been seriously injured in the line of duty can go. You know what ? I think you singlehandedly figured out the way to end overpopulation!

Now that I have that out of my system.

The other het emerged this morning, and has a lovely banded pattern. It's big baby too, at 78 grams. I will be posting updates after the babies shed and begin to feed, for those people here whom I actually care to hear from, since I know most of the people here aren't such { an impolite term for a donkey }.

Gale