Starters for a super pastel male?

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Originally Posted by Rawbbeh

a Cinnamon female with that super pastel male could make you some sterlings :-)

I'm a big fan of the Cinnamon, Pewter, Sterlings (and therefore pastel and super pastels mixed in)

Not the flavor of the month, but definitely pretty dang sweet looking!

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Super Pastel x Cinny will not make Sterlings!

A Sterling is a Super Pastel Cinny...

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Get what appeals to you, whether it be financially or because you like that certain snake. And be picky, they're all animals you're going to have for a bit while you grow them. If you aren't excited about the animals then what would the point be?

My personal tastes would drive me to get a honeybee, black pastel YB, and jigsaw. But that's what I'd like. If you're really into pieds I'd say go for it, recessive projects take quite a bit of extra time and the earlier you start the better. Lesser/pastel together in any combo tends to look really nice too.

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Originally Posted by John1982

must... change... mind... !!!

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Seriously though, pick some females you like and would like to see combined with the pastel gene. There's always the possibility of you not being able to sell the offspring, in which case it's better to be "stuck" with stuff you like in my opinion! I personally love fire and don't see any future projects of mine that don't incorporate the gene one way or another but to each their own. If we all liked the same thing there wouldn't be such crazy cool variety out there from which to choose.

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Man the size difference in those fires is pretty staggering already. I know my guy is on the right, but those other two just shine!

Thank you all for your input!
I talked it over with the boyfriend, and we've decided to go with a female pied. We're hoping to order one next week, so if anyone has happened to see a promising ad for a pied, let me know!

I think the step after that will be a female Mojave (preferably older, and ideally I'd be able to start breeding next year while the pied matures) and eventually a lesser so I can shoot for a clean BEL, which is now my boyfriend's favorite morph. The mojave would be kind of a "downgrade" from the pastel-pied potential in a year from then, but I'm justifying it as giving the super pastel a shot to breed if he's up to it, and myself a chance to figure out breeding and incubating before trying it on an $800 snake. again, if this makes absolutely no sense to those of you that are in the business, I'll happily take suggestions. I dont want you to think I'm ignoring advice to stick with the top morphs I can afford, I'm just a little uncomfortable starting off with stakes that high. I'm sure some of you are laughing at my "high stakes" with your $20k snakes, but I gotta start somewhere!

However, you fire-fans have shown me the light and they'll probably be included as I expand. :) Fireflies and superflies are awesome!

Once we get the pied ball (hah) rolling, it'd be cool to expand into axanthic and albino pieds, and hopefully regular piers won't be depreciated to $50 each by then! :P

I've also taken into account the long term advice a few of you have given me regarding keeping my collection up to date with the multi-gene morphs, as well as selling off the single-gene breeders. I plan on doing that to keep the collection modest, but I don't think I'll ever sell the super pastel. He's the one that's starting it all, and if breeding ends up being a total bust at least I'll still have a cool looking pet. As a side note, I did read Mike Cavanaugh's (I hope I spelled that correctly) blog entry about breeding principles, and I'm trying to keep that in mind as I get established.

Phew, this is a big reply. I hope I covered just about everyone. It's hard to navigate and format on a phone. Thank you all again for your advice! I've been reading all these boards rabidly, and everyone seems so knowledgeable and friendly. You'll definitely be hearing from me more as time goes on!

You would be surprised at how many of us are in the same range you are, just a few years later! My most expensive snake I bought was my proven het pied girl for $500. And I agree that it is not a bad idea to try breeding with a slightly cheaper morph to get your feet wet, my first girl I bred was a normal so not very high end there! I have a normal male that was my first snake, he is useless for breeding but he is my snake that started it all, he isn't going anywhere! At least your guy will be helpful if you do get into breeding!