"Fee" for lending out breeder males

In standard breeding loans the female is the one moving for and extended amount of time. Obviously you can't move the male back and forth between locations, animals must be quarantined when moving to a new location (anything from 3 to 6 months) additionally moving the male is not standard has there are no guarantee that he will be bred to one female and one female only.

My advice get EVERYTHING in writing from who does what to how the split will work to who is responsible should a health issue arise.

Split may vary, they are based on the value of the animals, not all clutches are split 50/50 for example you would not split a clutch 50/50 if you had a male banana paired to a normal female, things like those are to be evaluated and discussed and agreed upon prior to the loan.

Remember loans can be risky and can complicate friendships so make sure you think this through carefully before going ahead with this, not trying to scare you just warn you that it can complicate things depending on who you are doing a loan with.

Thanks for all the info, I'll have to re-think this. She's willing to bring her female to my house, but it seems this whole situation is just going to cause a bit of a headache. She doesn't even have the female yet so I may be worrying about this for nothing. We'll deal with it if and when the time comes.

Were doing this with our albino female this season, no written contract, but im not overly concerned. She has been with the other breeder since she was injured and due to his work, effort, and knowledge she has been eating like a hog(she wouldn't eat for us) and put on a ton of weight. He has a spider het albino male we agreed to breed with her this season, babies 50/50. We also had a simliar thing last year, he loaned us a breeder normal female to breed to a black pastel male we bought of him, he wanted some more black pastels, well she did not produce, and we wound buying her from him because we fell in love with her. To me it comes down to one thing, trust. If you dont feel you can trust the person you are working with get it all in writing, hell it probably wouldn't hurt to get it in writing anyway.

Sometimes the best laid plans go down in flames. My friend and I had worked out a deal, just for fun and to see what we would get. Everything was going fine, I had both snakes, I did all the work, which I was fine with. I would rather do most things myself, 10 years as a Marine has taught me the only person you can count on is you a lot of the time. Well surprise right after her pre lay shed I get told I have to go to Okinawa for 6 months. So the female plus all of my snakes go to stay with him while I'm gone (Very long story). The eggs should have hatched 2 weeks ago but I find out a week before they are due that he has been cooking the at 83 this whole time. And to add insult to injury the simple little pastel that set everything in motion for my wife and me to start keeping and breeding balls gets cooked by a heat lamp in the cage. It was one of those ones that has the heat lamp in a cage hanging attached to the celing. I know that accidents happen but when you own and work 7 days in a pet store you should have an idea of what you are doing.

the one most important thing over everything else in doing this is trust, without that you dicing with disaster.
I let me male Woma go to a friend most of last breeding season, he stayed there the whole time, but i wouldnt have let him go to anyone else, if someone wants to borrow one of my males it would be someone i knew and trusted implicitly and the female would be coming here.
without wholehearted trust there is nothing.

My buddy and I do loans every year. I will be moving my females to his house for this reason. Usually what we do is a split clutch 50/50. Who ever has the more valuable snake gets first pick and we take turns.

However if were breeding a double gene snake to single, depending on value, whoever owns the double gene gets the first two picks and the other person gets the 3 and 4 picks then its 1 by 1. (if that makes sense)

We have a chart made up of who gets what. Plus doing a loan with someone you know is always helpful.

Heck my parntner is the only reason I will have a shot at spider het clowns, and mojave het clowns this season.