This is a very good thread. I have 2 ball pythons (and two coming in September sometime) and 4 corn snakes. I would save so much money if I could breed my own food. However, mice smell so I've been waiting until I can get a shed with a window unit to put in the back yard so it doesn't get too hot for them. Rats, however, I could probably keep a male/female pair in my bedroom no problems. Silly mice. I could have a whole rodent breeding operation in my room if they just didn't smell!
This thread has given me some valuable information when I'm ready to take the leap into breeding my own food.
08-28-2012, 01:18 PM
satomi325
Re: Rat breeding steps
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Originally Posted by Orangephoner
I have two small rats in a 20 gallon long tank.
Christian
Something I missed while reading the original post the first time.
You said small rats? It could be possible that they're just not mature enough to breed. 5-6 week old rats are "small" in my book.
Technically rats can start breeding as young as 5 weeks, but I've found that they don't breed due to their mental immaturity at that age.
I would say 3-5 month olds would be the minimum age for a female to accept a male.
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Originally Posted by snakehobbyist
This is a very good thread. I have 2 ball pythons (and two coming in September sometime) and 4 corn snakes. I would save so much money if I could breed my own food. However, mice smell so I've been waiting until I can get a shed with a window unit to put in the back yard so it doesn't get too hot for them. Rats, however, I could probably keep a male/female pair in my bedroom no problems. Silly mice. I could have a whole rodent breeding operation in my room if they just didn't smell!
This thread has given me some valuable information when I'm ready to take the leap into breeding my own food.
I keep a rat rack in my room. I honestly can't smell them unless it's day 6+ after cleaning day. I change bedding once a week. Type of bedding and quality of food does make a difference in the odor as well.
My friend breeds fancy mice in her bed room. She probably has 20-50 mice at a time and it smells awful.
I'm temporarily housing 2 mice and one of their litters. I can't really smell them until bedding changing day.
And if you breed ASFs, there is little to no odor with them. They're a desert species so they don't urinate a lot (the main smell with mice). And when they do, they urinate in a specific "potty corner".
Here are a few tips to keep the odor down:
Change bedding at least once a week minimum.
The key is ventilation. Still stagnant air is bad. Air flow helps A LOT when keeping breeding rodents. Maybe invest in an air purifier or a small fan.
You can also put a little baking soda into the enclosures before filling it up with bedding. And putting a few drops of vanilla extract into their water bottles help as well.
08-28-2012, 01:50 PM
Andrew21
Re: Rat breeding steps
Quote:
Originally Posted by snakehobbyist
This is a very good thread. I have 2 ball pythons (and two coming in September sometime) and 4 corn snakes. I would save so much money if I could breed my own food. However, mice smell so I've been waiting until I can get a shed with a window unit to put in the back yard so it doesn't get too hot for them. Rats, however, I could probably keep a male/female pair in my bedroom no problems. Silly mice. I could have a whole rodent breeding operation in my room if they just didn't smell!
This thread has given me some valuable information when I'm ready to take the leap into breeding my own food.
Ya'll realize there is an entire forum dedicated to breeding rats. There's one for mice and asfs and whatnot as well. If you really want to find a buttload of information you can read through some of those posts. Or post in the forum yourself. Just saying.
08-29-2012, 11:01 AM
Orangephoner
Quote:
Originally Posted by satomi325
Something I missed while reading the original post the first time.
You said small rats? It could be possible that they're just not mature enough to breed. 5-6 week old rats are "small" in my book.
Technically rats can start breeding as young as 5 weeks, but I've found that they don't breed due to their mental immaturity at that age.
I would say 3-5 month olds would be the minimum age for a female to accept a male.
I think my rats are full grown. They are fat. I called them small rats cause there are small medium and large rats. They are just different types
Christian
08-29-2012, 11:51 AM
satomi325
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangephoner
I think my rats are full grown. They are fat. I called them small rats cause there are small medium and large rats. They are just different types
Christian
That's exactly what I was saying.
The small rats categorized in petstores and feeding charts are around 5-8 weeks old.
I'm currently holding back a few rats that I just produced in my last litters. They're small rats and about 7 weeks old. And they're nowhere near the size of my breeding adults. Maybe half their parents' size or less.
Can you take a picture of you holding them for a size comparison? Or perhaps weigh them?
Thanks
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08-29-2012, 02:00 PM
Orangephoner
Re: Rat breeding steps
So both of my rats weigh close to eachother this one in the pic ( who i know is a female) weighs 165g and my other weighs 175g. now that i look i notice that their "junk" looks the same. so i have two females. Does it look like she is big enough to make babies?
