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  • 08-29-2012, 11:05 AM
    boakid
    Re: Thinking about getting my first RTB?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xFenrir View Post
    It will take 2-3 years for a baby to reach anywhere near the 6ft mark, so if you want to get a RTB baby I'd say you wouldn't need someone else to spot you for a good amount of time. Even more so if you get a BCI rather than a BCC (or "true" Red Tail) My BCI girl is at the 6ft range and even though I have someone close by just in case, she's very laid back and I've never really run into any REAL danger. I just believe in the motto "better safe than sorry". Even if your family isn't fond of snakes, I'm sure they would help you if you called for them. As for my girl, as long as she feels properly supported, she's more than happy to wrap herself around my waist and hang out around my shoulders, and "taste" anything nearby. I just have to be careful if I'm sitting down because she likes to wander off, and her reach is pretty far.

    They're very curious snakes and they make a great introduction into the larger constrictors. They're usually very even-tempered (babies that are hissy are usually all show, and calm down with regular handling), are GREAT feeders and their requirements are very close to Ball Pythons. You just need to be prepared (for one day down the line) being able to provide an enclosure that could be up to 6ft in length! Just be prepared to eventually care for a decent-sized constrictor that will be eating large/jumbo rats.

    For reference, my girl and I. I'm around 5'4" (and pretty tiny lol). Each snake is different, and you should adjust your handling accordingly to how it acts and how safe you feel. :)
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../Photo0604.jpg

    Very nice.... Oh and the snake.

    As a experienced boa constrictor breeder, she nailed it on the head.
  • 08-29-2012, 04:33 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Thinking about getting my first RTB?
    Personally right behind my SD REtics my boas are my favorite snakes..... I love their personalities..... I do have several other pets (birds, cats, dogs, ect and 3 kids) I dont really ever worry about my boas getting out (but all are housed in racks or 4ft locking cages). I do love my boas, but one thing to keep in mind is size.... I know it doesnt happen often but recently a good friend of mine (I have snows and motley het snows from him, and he has some of my blood boas ect) picked up a 6 year old snow female that is pure columbian and pushing 11ft and 60lbs.... so on the rare occasion even Colombians can get big.... But from my experience and the 20+ boas I have they vary rarely have bad attitudes and are usually a joy to be around.....

    Another great thing about boas, is so many of the morphs have come down in price where you can buy something cool at a more affordable price....jungles, motley, albino, sunglow, albino motley, all morphs that can be had for less than 500 bucks....
  • 08-29-2012, 10:18 PM
    Druzy
    Are BCI typically easy to get at reptile stores, and shows?
    I am trying to gain all information before I make a decision of purchasing a RTB.

    Just out of curiosity what does BCC, and BCI stand for, and how did it come up?
    Does BCC indicate a true RTB?
  • 08-29-2012, 11:35 PM
    Daybreaker
    BCIs are usually the ones sold in pet stores, and are easy to come by at expos too: probably more BCIs there than BCCs, BCOs, BCLs, etc

    BCCs are "true redtails", these include Peruvians, Guyanans, Surinames, etc

    BCI is boa constrictor imperator, BCC is boa constrictor constrictor
  • 08-30-2012, 12:02 AM
    Druzy
    So they are all considered red tail boas, but some are found in different regions?
    I have worked with some RTB, but now I am trying to understand the differences.
    Also I find this as part of my homework before I ever own one :D
  • 08-30-2012, 12:38 AM
    Daybreaker
    Re: Thinking about getting my first RTB?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Druzy View Post
    So they are all considered red tail boas, but some are found in different regions?
    I have worked with some RTB, but now I am trying to understand the differences.
    Also I find this as part of my homework before I ever own one :D

    Yeah, though personally I don't even call my Colombians "red tail boas" since I don't think it's totally correct. I may just be nit picky.

    Here's a good site on all the different kinds of boas: http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/index.htm
  • 08-30-2012, 03:15 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Thinking about getting my first RTB?
    Talking about localities and BCI, BCC, BCL, and BCO it is really easy to break this stuff down.....

    BCO = argentine boas
    BCL = Peruvian long tail
    BCI = Sonoran (mexican boas the species furthest north) all the way south to columbian boas
    BCC = South of Columbia

    It also seems to an extent (true alot but not always for example the largest boa locality is Peruvian, and Argentina is further south but the BCO is smaller than Peruvian) the further south you go the larger the boas are

    Dont let all the locality stuff beat you up its really not as difficult as it seems.

    I just want to ask one kind favor of you... I know you are only talking about one boa, but it is an addiction that I know I cant get away from.. If you choose to breed PLEASE DO NOT CROSS BREED ANY THING TO BCO OR BCL LOCALITIES.... I do not care much about cross breeding bci localities it is done so much anyway and producing morphs it is understandable, crossing bci to bcc I do not like but understand it happens and it becomes more acceptable when things like roswell boas come out of those crosses... But bcl is something special and should be left alone in my oppenion.... and BCO is such a magical beautiful animal that was pushed to the verge of extinction and there are amazing pure BCO morphs (t+ and motley) that look amazing it would be a travesty to cross breed and mutt this species of boa up........
  • 08-30-2012, 04:04 PM
    xFenrir
    I agree, there are a few boa species out there that are so fantastic and beautiful on their own that it would be a downright shame to crossbreed them. I usually don't care either way, but it kind of takes away from their special-ness a little.
  • 08-30-2012, 04:26 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Thinking about getting my first RTB?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xFenrir View Post
    I agree, there are a few boa species out there that are so fantastic and beautiful on their own that it would be a downright shame to crossbreed them. I usually don't care either way, but it kind of takes away from their special-ness a little.

    I believe that BCO's are flippin amazing... and I want some T+ and motley het T+ BCO's so bad I cant stand it........ I dont know why anyone would try to cross breed these out, I personally hope it never happens, but we all know it will
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