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Housing Retics together?

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  • 08-15-2012, 03:47 PM
    ExotixTowing
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  • 08-15-2012, 03:58 PM
    Wicked Constrictors
    No do not put two together, i would not put more then one of any kind of snake together but for breeding, And if you dont already have the 2 retics i would just get the one right now they eat A LOT and can grow fast.
  • 08-15-2012, 04:13 PM
    xFenrir
    I would recommend cohabiting snakes to experienced keepers only. Not only do you want to house two very large, sometimes rather irritable snakes together, but you won't be able to keep track of who's excrement (or regurg) is who's. And if someone is sick then you'll have to take BOTH to the vet, because you won't know who's the sick one and who's the healthy one (and if they're together they'd probably both get sick at about the same time if it did happen). I'm sure the vet bill for a Retic would be hefty.

    Plus, have you SEEN the feeding response for a full-grown (or not even full-grown) Reticulated Python? Those things are like heat-seeking missiles packed with lots of large, sharp teeth and 300+ pounds behind them. And you want to put TWO together in the same enclosure then try and feed them? Sounds like a recipe for someone to get hurt, IMHO.

    Long story short, I'd say if you want two Retics, get two enclosures. :gj:
  • 08-15-2012, 04:14 PM
    Wes
    Re: Housing Retics together?
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    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Wrong wrong wrong.

    Can be, has been, is currently being, done.

    So when would it ever be a good idea to house two snakes together other than breeding?
  • 08-15-2012, 04:17 PM
    DemmBalls
    Re: Housing Retics together?
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    Originally Posted by LAXGOALIE View Post
    When you say newer keepers do you mean new to reptiles or new to retics? I have kept reptiles for about 10 years and have had Burms,Boas and the list goes on and on. As far as Retics these would be my first ones.

    Prior reptile keeping experience doesn't mean much when it comes to keeping Retics. They have a personality all their own and will remind you everytime you let your guard down. Maybe build your enclosure and get a female Jamp or other Dwarf species to start. This way...You have your female and can start putting some age and size on her while you decide if you want two.

    I personally, would not try keeping two Retics together. Better safe than sorry IMO.
  • 08-15-2012, 10:06 PM
    LAXGOALIE
    Thanks for the advice guys. I just bought a Boaphile rack so I'm going to foccus on breeding Ball's:banana:
  • 08-15-2012, 10:49 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Housing Retics together?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xFenrir View Post
    I would recommend cohabiting snakes to experienced keepers only. Not only do you want to house two very large, sometimes rather irritable snakes together, but you won't be able to keep track of who's excrement (or regurg) is who's. And if someone is sick then you'll have to take BOTH to the vet, because you won't know who's the sick one and who's the healthy one (and if they're together they'd probably both get sick at about the same time if it did happen). I'm sure the vet bill for a Retic would be hefty.

    Plus, have you SEEN the feeding response for a full-grown (or not even full-grown) Reticulated Python? Those things are like heat-seeking missiles packed with lots of large, sharp teeth and 300+ pounds behind them. And you want to put TWO together in the same enclosure then try and feed them? Sounds like a recipe for someone to get hurt, IMHO.

    Long story short, I'd say if you want two Retics, get two enclosures. :gj:

    Have YOU ever seen a 300lb retic? Have YOU ever kept two or more snakes together which would give YOU some first hand experience in determining whose puke or poop was whose? Have YOU ever had one snake get sick, while keeping other snakes in the same rack or room, but no others?

    Or is this all regurgitation in action?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wes View Post
    So when would it ever be a good idea to house two snakes together other than breeding?

    Whenever you feel you're up to it. There's no rules set in stone for this. Just because most people say you can't, doesn't make it so. How many have tried it themselves?
  • 08-15-2012, 11:07 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Housing Retics together?
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    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Yes, I believe this because no matter how many times you're told, have proven to you, have it written really really slow, you still hang on the the mistakne notion that any two snakes housed together will eventually wind up with one fat snake.

    No, I hang on to the accurate notion that it is a possibility. I've personally experienced it, as well. So, it seems like a very stupid chance to take. No amount of talking on your part is going to make those thing mysteriously cease to have happened. No numbers showing how many times it has been done successfully will remove those few incidents in which snakes have made lunch of one another. I would like to see your alleged proof that this never happens, however, as that should be interesting.

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Have YOU ever had one snake get sick, while keeping other snakes in the same rack or room, but no others?

    Oh, and I have, by the way.
  • 08-15-2012, 11:22 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Housing Retics together?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    No, I hang on to the accurate notion that it is a possibility. I've personally experienced it, as well. So, it seems like a very stupid chance to take. No amount of talking on your part is going to make those thing mysteriously cease to have happened. No numbers showing how many times it has been done successfully will remove those few incidents in which snakes have made lunch of one another. I would like to see your alleged proof that this never happens, however, as that should be interesting.

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    Oh, and I have, by the way.

    I have not ever said never donna, you know that well.

    And I'm also not surprised one bit that you had a snake get sick and had it not been solo, you would not have known which one it was. Some people should not keep snakes together. You are obviously one of those.
  • 08-16-2012, 12:19 AM
    xFenrir
    Not regurgitation by any means. It's simply common sense that if animals (any kind of animal) are housed together, the risk of them both getting sick if one does is almost certain. Same with if any two animals are together and one poops something weird, unless you saw it, you're gonna have a very, very tough time telling who it was. Even more so with snakes, seeing as they go a LOT less than most animals. I'm using deductive reasoning and common sense.

    And yes, I HAVE seen a Retic eat. They're big reptiles and putting two in the same enclosure and then trying to feed them will be much, much tougher than just dealing with one. Heck, I wouldn't want another boa in with mine when I feed her. Some days she's the most docile feeder ever, other days she's just as likely to go for my hand than the rat.


    Using sensible reasoning, it's just better to house them separately. But hey, since I don't ACTUALLY have experience, I guess everyone can just ignore me.
    Just because you haven't gone skydiving, doesn't mean you don't know you'd need a parachute...




    Basically, OP, you're gonna make the final decision. I'm guessing you're a smart guy/gal, so I'm sure you'll do what you're comfortable with.
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