Royal Morphz -- here are the pictures you requested

Congrats they look great!

Unique! They are beautiful.

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Originally Posted by Royal Morphz

After seeing that belly I am inclined to say congrats on hitting a Super Cinnamon Pied my friend. :gj::gj:

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While I will congratulate the person that produced these beauties, I do not agree they are super cinny pieds. At this point in the projects, I'm betting money the super cinny het pieds are showing the visual marker for the pied gene. We just had two more clutches drop yesterday that will hopefully prove the theory of the visual hets. We will know more in a few weeks.
2010 Super Pewter 50% het Pied
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2456.jpg
2011 Silver Bullet 50% het Pied
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2471.jpg
Congrats again to the OP on some killer animals.

Hi Glenn! :)

Congrats:) They are beautiful!

That is wild looking!

Wicked whether it's a Pied or not...

I believe that the OP does have a pied.
Look at the rear saddle in the first photo. It's definitely a pied saddle.

:eek::eek::eek: love that tail!

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Originally Posted by satomi325

I believe that the OP does have a pied.
Look at the rear saddle in the first photo. It's definitely a pied saddle.

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I'm not seeing it. Having hatched several Pewter Pieds and seen other Pewter Pied, Cinny Pied, and Black Pastel Pieds, I wholeheartedly disagree. The Cinny/BP gene affects Pieds in a way that Spider does. It seems the majority of pattern mutations cause mostly white Pieds with the exception of Enchi. There have been more than enough produced over the last few years and with the Panda Pied being another mostly white snake, I just don't believe that is what we are seeing here. Look a my pictures above. Here are some of the Pewter Pieds I've produced.

2012
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF3923.jpg

2010 male. One of two pretty much identical.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2241.jpg

2010 female. I think this one is actually a Sterling Pied going by the head color at hatching.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2233.jpg
Hatchling pic from 2010.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF9901.jpg

Another pic of the two from above together. Super Pewter 50% het Pied and Silver Bullet 50% het Pied.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2469.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2472.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2463.jpg

I'm not trying to hijack the thread....just trying to shed light on what is happening. Whatever they turn out to be, they are killer looking snakes!

Something else to take not of is the emergence of random black dot over time. These animals hatch out completely white with the exception of the head and the black dots began at about 600-1000 grams.