Very worried...

Because she's a bp...;)

Good luck tonight!

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Hi again, :)

Do you feed F/T? If so is it wet when you put it in?

I like your idea of the paper towels but just wondered if there was anything else we could do to stop aspen getting on it.


dr del

Well huzzah, she got down a pinkie just now! Granted, it's a very small victory, but it's a victory none-the-less, and I'll take it! :D I'm so happy she has SOMETHING in her, no matter how small it is. I offered her a second but she was uninterested... Oh well, at least she got one down. This is progress, right?! :D

I'm thinking a couple more times feeding her the pinks, then moving up to fuzzies, then so on and so forth. Since she looks so thin, it would probably be better to not try and feed her a proper sized meal right away in case it's too much for her, right?

And yes, I do feed her F/T, and it IS a little wet when I give it to her (from the thawing process, I guess), but usually it's her own spit that makes the aspen stick to it. She'll get it in her mouth and then when she tries to maneuver it she ends up rolling her whole head in the aspen and it gets stuck in her mouth.

Hi,

Can you put a piece of flat slate or something in front of the hides and use that as a feeding matt?

It might reduce it a bit. :)


dr del

So, you haven't tried live at all? That would be the first thing I would do. Live ASFs broke my pastel females fast of 9 months. She has been pounding anything that comes in her tub since then (about 3 months)

Yeh. I would say try live of proper size and see. Imho live is the way to go for a snake that wont eat. Always the go to fast ender

I'm kinda curious, what is the physiology behind the spider "wobble"? Is that known? To me it looks like some kind of neuromuscular defect, and I wonder if it's having an effect on swallowing ability. You say she takes the rodent, but spits it back up, or with a smaller prey tries to "force" it down by pushing it against something. Could it be she just can't swallow the larger prey? If the muscles affected are used to hold the head up and are involved in swallowing it might account for the wobble and a weak swallowing response. Again, I don't know what's behind the wobble, so I could be totally wrong here. But if so, and I laugh that someone else said tube-feeding, I thought if I said that it would sound crazy, maybe try her on smaller prey for awhile if that's all she can get down. And, this will probably sound even crazier, if she'll take them this way give her some larger prey greased up with corn oil. Unless corn oil is bad for reptiles....mammals lurv it.

The whole seize and spit up thing sounds like a physical problem and not just a refusal problem.

I am concerned she has a real issue here. Keep offering her the pinks, if she'll take them. Offer every 3 days if she'll take them. Tiny food is better than no food. But do consider another vet visit to rule out a growth or something making it painful or impossible for her to swallow. And do consider using poster board or something sturdy as a feeding tray.

Gale

Oh. Also does she have a hide???? I had one girl who didnt eat well for a long time. Gave her a bog hid and she was fine my appolgies if you stated it already