To trade or not to trade... That is the question?

Are you sure they're what he says they are? CL has a lot of scammers so just be careful if you do the trade. :D

I'm interested in who the breeder is because that's a kind of shady recommendation. Did they give you a discount since the bee hadn't eaten?? How long has it been now? You might want to try an assisted feeding if the little girl isn't showing interest in food.

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Originally Posted by babyknees

Are you sure they're what he says they are? CL has a lot of scammers so just be careful if you do the trade. :D

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I'm interested in who the breeder is because that's a kind of shady recommendation. Did they give you a discount since the bee hadn't eaten?? How long has it been now? You might want to try an assisted feeding if the little girl isn't showing interest in food.

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Both of these are very good points;)

Most hatchlings will not start on F/T, and plenty of babies refuse their first meal (no matter what it is) and go on to be great eaters. I don't know how long you've had the bee, but if it's only been one meal, I wouldn't panic yet. That being said, if you plan on breeding, you will probably not be able to completely avoid feeding live, at least for new hatchlings.

As for the trade, that is really just a personal decision. Just make sure you disclose that the bee isn't eating.

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Originally Posted by brobertson

I feel like I made a mistake on the bee because I bought her fresh out of the egg on the breeders recommendation. She refused her first feed, and I am worried that she will be very difficult to start on F/T (I hate live)

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you dont loose anything trying to feed live maybe she will eat.

I wouldn't trade because that bee is already stressed out enough. I would at least try to get it eating before putting it through any further stress!


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I bought her from HDI reptiles, and they told me that she wouldn't be an issue. I was gullible, so I went for it. Looking back, it was quite stupid of me. Anyway, I have two more F/T hoppers left, and if she doesn't take either, I will buy a live one. I have decided to hold on to her for the time being.

I would strongly recommend offering her a live hopper first, and once she has had a few meals, then make the switch. You will have a much higher chance for success if you do that, because her feeding response will be stronger after a few meals.

Don't trade! you can try contacting Brian from 'for goodness of snakes' and see if he can help you start your snake off, he's a awesome guy located in San Jose. Don't give up on your knew hatching :)

Here's a vid he has on how to Assist Feed stubborn baby ball pythons. He writes "If you have a baby ball python that does not eat within 3 weeks after its first shed then you will want to try this technique." But also states that if this doesn't work you'll want to try a live pinkie.
http://youtu.be/2K2gXdeQU1I

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I bought her from HDI reptiles, and they told me that she wouldn't be an issue. I was gullible, so I went for it. Looking back, it was quite stupid of me. Anyway, I have two more F/T hoppers left, and if she doesn't take either, I will buy a live one. I have decided to hold on to her for the time being.

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OK - so his name is Doug Day (googled for the owner of HDI Reptiles). Most reputable breeders are not going to sell a baby straight out of the egg unless it's to another experienced breeder that they've known for some time. To sell a baby fresh out of the egg before its first shed at a show is irresponsible, and because he doesn't have first hand experience if that baby will eat, he shouldn't guarantee that she wouldn't be an issue.

Seems as though he was more concerned with the sale than the well being of the snake. :(