Probed my snakes for the first time and im pissed.

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Originally Posted by gsarchie

Some of you seem to feel like it isn't a big deal, however I can completely sympathize with the OP. When you buy snakes specifically for breeding and you find out later on that they are sexed incorrectly, especially when you are only a few months away from pairing, it is completely natural that you would be pissed. Some have said that it is good as he got a female for the price of a male, but with spiders the prices are separated by at most $50-$100, and if you have no need for a female spider then you have no need for a female spider! To the OP, I would try probing again or probing the other side and seeing what you get. I hope this turns out well for you but if not maybe you can fit a female spider into your breeding plans.

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True. If your expecting something and get something else it can be irritating. The female/male spider price difference only applies to hatchling tho, a female with size is worth way more than a male...

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Once you do it enough you will get the hang of it and you will be able to tell the difference

Man, I saw the headline and thought, "oh no, another labeled female is actually male!"
But now that I'm reading this thread, I find that a male turned female is a bonus!
Females are worth more and when breeding, you want to be female heavy.
Either way, I also agree with resexing the snake. Probing isn't accurate enough for me.

Hi,

When you reached the "bottom" of the pocket what did it feel like?

Did it feel like there was some stretch in it like the bottom of a sock or was it a hard stop like hitting the tip of a shoe?


dr del

Do you go buy belly scales or little scales under the cloaca. Also there's like 2 sets under the cloaca so how do u tell

My bet is that it is a male. Pretty much every breeder I know sexes hatchlings by popping. If it pops male then you are 100% sure it's a male. If it pops female, then there's still that chance that its actually a male. So pretty much all of the mixups are "females" that turn out to be male, not the other way around. I suppose a labeling mix up is possible.

But that coupled with the fact that this your first time probing and you're probing on your own w/o instruction, suggests that it probably is a male. Not doubting you, but an experienced prober can show you the difference between a female and male, when you hit the end they have a different "feel" so when you get these inbetweens you can discern what is what.

And if he's larger now, it can be trickier to pop them as they're stronger and can resist being popped. See my above comment for popping giving false positives for females.

@ Everybody who posted XDD Yeah, in retrospect is is nice that I was able to get a female for a males price, but it just irretated me to no end that I would have to rework his chart, set new goals, I thought he was already up to weight, but now I have to wrry about her eating consistantly more(female weights stress me out more haha) Theoreticly I could sell her to get a boy, but honestly ive grown kind of attatched XP.

@dr del Well, at first it didnt go in far at all, but I angled more slightly and it slid in to scale 5. I cant rightly describe the barrier as I was too scared to push hard enough to get a good feel for it @_@. I wasnt even grasping the probe firmly. I held it loosely enough that when the probe met resistance my fingers began sliding up the probe. I gave the end a gentle nudge to confirm that I was stopped and measured. It did feel firm as opposed to flexible though. I thought about angling and trying again, but I thought I should consult you guys first = P

Unfortunately im but a lowly worker at petsmart, and between rent bills and cost of living 200 is more than I like to put out comfortably, I generally save up 50 bucks at a time whenever I feel it can be done. Doesnt quite break the bank, but its enough to not be happy about XD. Ill just have to get a pinstripe whenever the oppertunity arises, and spit out some lemon blasts and spinners before I get into the bees(Some of my favorite morph combos)

I've had 5 scale probes turn out male. Before being angry or upset, get confirmation from someone with experience. Re-read Zombie's post#7 above. I've had similar experience.

Yeah, I definitely want to figure out for sure what he/she is. Im trying to think of who I can take it to. Im up for a promotion at work pretty soon here and I wont be doing overnights anymore, so that very well may open up my saturdays. Then I could just take him with me to a snake show, and try and get one of those breeders to help me out. I want to be 100% positive before I rework my plans. Though maybe they should be a tad more flexible:rolleyes:

Check before you go to a show to see if they allow animals into the show. Most don't. Repticon does, but I don't know of many others that do.

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