Yeah I remember before I got into balls years ago when they were first hitting the scene I saw a pied on the front of reptile magazine. I was like man I want one of those bad. When I got into balls that was right at the top of my list of got to haves, but of course I couldn't afford the cash for one so I bought baby hets. So to say the least I am super excited to see little white snakes in there and I was able to prove them out:banana: Now the long wait for them to join me.