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Reducing humidity?

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  • 07-08-2012, 11:06 AM
    SRMD
    Re: Reducing humidity?
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    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    Im sure that its the same technology in the singles thats in the dual.

    Take the hydrometer out and perform a test. Google how to calibrate a hydrometer and follow the easy steps. You wont be able to calibrate yours but you will be albe to see if it is close to what it should be.

    Or an easier way is if you have a cigar shop near you they sell calibration kits that are set at 70% so you would know for sure that you were testing it right and see if your gauge is right. They are cheap.

    If your gauge is not working right you can change your whole tank but it will still be wrong. My tanks each have a digital themometer and a analog temp/humi gauge, and I just added a weather station montior to my tanks. I tend to over prepare. I just posted the station I bought, here is what I got. Not really what you need but will point you in the right direction. http://www.boaphileplastics.com/rhin...ball_room.html

    When I first bought the ExoTerra gauge I was freaking out too because no matter what I did it still said low numbers.

    Bottom line is TEST IT!!!!

    Lol i have never saw a cigar shop where i live in my life!

    but thanks for all the advice i will try and figure something out :)
  • 07-08-2012, 11:24 AM
    KMG
    Re: Reducing humidity?
    NO CIGAR SHOP!!!!! What do you have!?! You should move!!! LOL!!!!!

    Well do the salt test. Its easy. Like I said just Google, if you have Google HAHAHA!, hydrometer calibration. Its pretty much just salt, water and a zip bag or air tight container.
  • 07-08-2012, 11:25 AM
    SRMD
    Re: Reducing humidity?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    NO CIGAR SHOP!!!!! What do you have!?! You should move!!! LOL!!!!!

    Well do the salt test. Its easy. Like I said just Google, if you have Google HAHAHA!, hydrometer calibration. Its pretty much just salt, water and a zip bag or air tight container.

    Lol the UK has nothing :(

    and ye i have Google lmao, and ye i will try the salt test, just need to find a bottle cap :L
  • 07-08-2012, 11:32 AM
    KMG
    Cigars and snakes
    I just realized that keeping snakes is much like keeping cigars. They both have their own box/cage, they need certain temps and certain humidity and can cost as much as you want to spend. That and you cant just have one.
  • 07-08-2012, 11:40 AM
    kitedemon
    Humidity is a bit more complex than you are making it. What is the RH in the room? If the RH in the room and enclosure are the same there is little you can do to reduce it with out reducing the room. There is also no need to. High humidity is not a problem unless coupled with low ventilation. This creates perfect bacteria breeding grounds, that isn't a problem either but is VERY likely to lead to respiratory issues. Condensation occurs when the room is cooler than the tubs it is not necessarily connected to problems in an 80º room a tub can be dangerously too humid and not show any condensation. It is how ever unlikely to get condensation in a enclosure that has proper ventilation no matter the RH in the tub it vents to the room and prevents this.


    The best hygrometers that are appropriate are calibratable analogue ones. Digital ones need to be clean and are very fragile snakes tend to be hard on such things. Analogue ones are robust and very accurate if calibrated. I am not familiar with these brands specifically but I am guessing there is a calibration screw 'round the back.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/HUS99-Brasse..._sim_sbs_lp_30
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/TFA-Integrat...d_sim_sbs_lp_2

    I have a few of these they are reasonable ones I don't mind them, better then most digital ones.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/CALIBER-DIGI...760346&sr=8-24

    remarkably there is a hair hygrometer for a reasonable price. They tend to be quite accurate and very very frail but ...

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adorini-hair...d_sim_sbs_lp_4
    (I love the scale it is hair so the scale is non liner.)

    A salt test is the easiest way to calibrate a hygrometer it is quite hard on digital units the salt crystals corroding the sensing element and cause it become out of calibration. (same for uranate) (this is why the kits are sold they are not so hard on digital units. The accuracy of a salt test is about 1% analogue units sold for humidors tend to be quality (unlike pet store units) and highly accurate. Mine hold with in 1%. The best digital one I have is 6% off. All my analogue ones are better.

    http://cigars.about.com/od/humidors/qt/hygrometers.htm
    Saturated salt solutions RH by temperature
    http://www.omega.com/temperature/z/pdf/z103.pdf
  • 07-08-2012, 11:53 AM
    xdaman666x
    hi m8 has u are from the uk same has me hers a good site that i use to by some of my stuff from http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/
    i hope that this will help u m8
  • 07-08-2012, 02:00 PM
    Poseidon
    Re: Reducing humidity?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adorini-hair...d_sim_sbs_lp_4
    (I love the scale it is hair so the scale is non liner.)

    I don't understand.
  • 07-08-2012, 05:40 PM
    SRMD
    Re: Reducing humidity?
    Just done the Salt test for 6 HOURS
    and my humidity reads:
    72%

    and it says it should be 75% so not too bad :) i will probably buy an dial one though, thanks for the help!
    so every time I have to add 3 to the reading?
  • 07-08-2012, 05:46 PM
    kitedemon
    Hair hygrometers do not have evenly spaced scales the RH scale starts widely spaced and then gets narrower. It is related to how much hair moves in various humidity. Look at the face

    http://www.robertwhite.com/cgi-local...av_bar=weather

    10% to 20% has a very large space where 80 to 90% is quite small. This is the mark of a true hair hygrometer. They quite literarily have a strand of hair inside. They are very consistent.
  • 07-08-2012, 05:47 PM
    SRMD
    Re: Reducing humidity?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    Hair hygrometers do not have evenly spaced scales the RH scale starts widely spaced and then gets narrower. It is related to how much hair moves in various humidity. Look at the face

    http://www.robertwhite.com/cgi-local...av_bar=weather

    10% to 20% has a very large space where 80 to 90% is quite small. This is the mark of a true hair hygrometer. They quite literarily have a strand of hair inside. They are very consistent.


    so which out of the 3 you have showed me the UK ones would you recommened most?
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