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  • 07-02-2012, 08:33 PM
    RobNJ
    Re: How long for females to reach breeding size?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mues155 View Post
    I wait until at least 3 years old and she must be at least 1500g.

    What happens when you have a 4+ year old just hovering at 1300-1400 grams, short and stout, not eating a lot, but enough that she's in fine physical shape...are you just never going to breed her?


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mues155 View Post
    I won't risk the well being of a female just because I'm impatient.

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    It doesn't just boil down to being impatient. I started pairing my cinny girl at 1,800 grams and 18 months old after I felt follicles developing and did not feel that I was putting her at any extra risk. I have older females that I did not breed because I was not too thrilled with their behavior. I'm comfortable with dealing with my snakes on an individual basis rather than going by a blanket of rules that cover all of them.
  • 07-03-2012, 12:30 AM
    Zombie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RobNJ View Post
    What happens when you have a 4+ year old just hovering at 1300-1400 grams, short and stout, not eating a lot, but enough that she's in fine physical shape...are you just never going to breed her?




    It doesn't just boil down to being impatient. I started pairing my cinny girl at 1,800 grams and 18 months old after I felt follicles developing and did not feel that I was putting her at any extra risk. I have older females that I did not breed because I was not too thrilled with their behavior. I'm comfortable with dealing with my snakes on an individual basis rather than going by a blanket of rules that cover all of them.

    I just had a 3 yr old female that's barely made it to 1200g before laying and gave me 5 perfect eggs and went all the way down to 780g after laying. She is healthy as can be and pounding rats...

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  • 07-03-2012, 02:01 PM
    mues155
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    I disagree. Bc following that logic would mean once females reach a certain age they cant breed anymore. Or if they do there would be much more complications. Just like there are for women once they hit 40. Or even over 30 or 35 in some cases nowadays.

    To our knowledge female balls can breed for their whole lives. A 30 y/o bp doesnt produce a worse clutch than a 3 y/o one. And if im wrong then someone show me some studies lol.

    I'm not talking about older bps.
    I'm talking about a young first timer breeder.
    These are just MY personal guidelines.
    I'm not saying anyone else should follow them.
    of course there are exceptions, each bp is an individual.
    I'm just saying I personally don't feel comfortable breeding a female if she's either under 3 or under 1500g. I have a 4 year old bp right now that's 1300g, she will be bred this fall because I feel comfortable.
    As far as having a 3 yr + female under 1500g then it would depend on the snake and how she's feeding and if she wants to take a male.
    That's cool if you guys have different opinions but I don't get why I'm pretty much getting grilled because I voiced my opinion. nowhere in my post did I say the op should follow it. It's all purely IMO

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  • 07-03-2012, 02:25 PM
    Mike41793
    I wasnt grilling you. I said "i disagree" then shared my opinion. You can do whatever you want, im not trying to tell you what to do lol :p
  • 07-03-2012, 02:29 PM
    mues155
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    I wasnt grilling you. I said "i disagree" then shared my opinion. You can do whatever you want, im not trying to tell you what to do lol :p

    I know, I'm just speaking in general.
    And thanks I will do what I want lol :p

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  • 07-03-2012, 02:51 PM
    satomi325
    It has more to do with sexual maturity (age) than weight in my opinion. You can breed a female in 2 years, but does that mean she'll actually produce? Maybe, maybe not. It's always just safer to wait 3 years.

    You can have a older small female and breed her as long as she's in good health and proportionally fit. She can be short, but well muscled and still breed fine.

    The weight to length ratio of a snake is just important than the actual weight of a snake too. A snake can be over 1500 grams but be long and thin. I probably wouldn't feel comfortable breeding that type of snake until she gains more mass. Plus a long thin snake doesn't have the same reserves as a more massive snake and would probably make a poor breeder.
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