None Albinos from breeding two hets... possibile?

Sure there is a chance that no visual is produced when pairing two hets together, remember that your chances to produce an albino is 25% per egg.

Sometimes people will not produce any visual and sometimes people will produce several, depends on your luck.

Personally I would give a pair 3 seasons to prove before I write that pair off as het.

Yeah its entirely possible.... I have seen the same visual male albino and proven het female throw a clutch of all hets 2 years in a row...... bad luck and crappy odds yes... but it has happened with a visual to het breeding so het x het is even more likely to not pan put

Now I see it's more often than I thought. Hope to have more luck in next year :bow: Thanks for answers!

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Originally Posted by inornatus

Now I see it's more often than I thought. Hope to have more luck in next year :bow: Thanks for answers!

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It happens to EVERYONE who breeds sooner or later, it's just that people tend not to brag about getting crappy odds.

Just a case of bad luck :(
Best of luck to you next year!

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Yep--out of a 13 egg clutch, once, i got 11 pastels and 2 normals. It could JUST as easily have been the other way around. It's not at all strange for a het X het breeding to produce no visuals.

To formula to figure the odds of completely missing is (1 - p)^n where p is the odds of hitting per egg and n is the number of eggs. For example for a 6 egg clutch from het X het (i.e. p = 1 in 4 or 0.25 and n = 6) the odds of not producing any albinos is (1 - 0.25)^6 = 17.8% or about 1 in 5.6. This could help you gage how unlucky you would have to be to miss or if something else is going on like one of the parents not being a het or parthenogenesis.

Here are the odds of missing per clutch size for het X het:



eggs chance missing
1 75.00%
2 56.25%
3 42.19%
4 31.64%
5 23.73%
6 17.80%
7 13.35%
8 10.01%
9 7.51%
10 5.63%
11 4.22%
12 3.17%
13 2.38%
14 1.78%
15 1.34%
16 1.00%


Here are the odds of missing from homozygous X het:

eggs chance missing
1 50.00%
2 25.00%
3 12.50%
4 6.25%
5 3.13%
6 1.56%
7 0.78%

Like everybody else already said, you have a 75% chance of hitting a non-visual. Two seasons ago I bred a Cinnamon to normal, 5 eggs, 5 NORMALS. My second clutch was Pinstripe to normal, 5 eggs, 5 NORMALS:mad: And my odds were 50% on hitting a visual. It happens, better luck next season.:gj:

Every breeder has their bad odds story, I like when it happens early in the season so I can get them out of they way;)
My worst odds was on a bumble bee project years back, Pastel to Spider, 3 clutches- 18 eggs, 1 egg died, 9 normals, 4 pastels, 3 spiders, 1 bumble bee

Same odds to see a normal as a bumble bee:rage:

Yes no visuals is possible


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