Have lessers, worth getting a butter?

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Butter and Lesser, I bet most everyone can tell me which is which...

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/IMG_9532.jpg
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/IMG_8996.jpg

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Top is a lesser and bottom is a butter. I pretty confident. But I could be wrong


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To me they are two lines of the same gene. I've seen Lessers that had that Butter look to them, and I've seen Butters that looked like Lessers. Six one, half dozen the other.

You'll always be able to find both smokin' and so-so examples of each line.

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Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001

Top is a lesser and bottom is a butter. I pretty confident. But I could be wrong

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You are correct.

I agree with the theory that they are two different lines of the same gene

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

You are correct.

I agree with the theory that they are two different lines of the same gene

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Not every butter and lesser is that obvious to me. But I almost always see a settle difference in the gene. My butter for instance is a very cream color, very similar to the butter in the picture. The lesser seem a bit darker to me, at least from all the pictures I've seen so far.


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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Butter and Lesser, I bet most everyone can tell me which is which...

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/IMG_9532.jpg
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/IMG_8996.jpg

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Since there is so much variation within each line either could be either.

The colour and lightness will also change with the age of the snake.

Camera settings and lighting also play a major part in making morphs look different in different photos and the only real way to make an accurate colour comparison is to put the 2 snakes of the same age next to each other in the same shot.

There are just too many variables.

FWIW the bottom pic looks very much like my lesser.

For me the factor would be the "het", 100% would be a go and get it IF she is a good looking girl:gj:

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Butter and Lesser, I bet most everyone can tell me which is which...

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/IMG_9532.jpg
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/IMG_8996.jpg

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this easy the top a lesser and the bottom a butter.
I have abutter and just hatched out 4/6 butter to normal ratio, I wish my friend would have and sell me a female that was a codom and het og lol cause I got a ghost male now. can only hope and wish to find something cheap at the oak pa show, and they willing to trade around some breeding size ablino gene snakes for the hatchling lol

So I don't understand the vastly different names for the combo morphs from both, if they are the same line. I mean, any line pastel with spider is bumble bee, right? So if lesser pastel spider is queen bee, then the name with butter pastel spider is butter bumble bee are they basically the same thing? Or were they considered different genes until very recently thus the old names stuck?

Also, you know the bug eyes from super lessers and super butters. Does that mean that a lesser butter has the same problem?

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Originally Posted by hungba

So I don't understand the vastly different names for the combo morphs from both, if they are the same line. I mean, any line pastel with spider is bumble bee, right? So if lesser pastel spider is queen bee, then the name with butter pastel spider is butter bumble bee are they basically the same thing? Or were they considered different genes until very recently thus the old names stuck?

Also, you know the bug eyes from super lessers and super butters. Does that mean that a lesser butter has the same problem?

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They're "officially" different morphs founded by two different people. However, the vast majority of us believe they are the same genetic mutation. Just different lines of it.
And because they are both "officially" different morphs, they have different combo names.

And yes. Lesser Butters can get bug eyes.

Which one is the butter?

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...on/Paxton4.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...sserFemale.jpg

Together:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...serFemale4.jpg