Single genes are "boring"...

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Originally Posted by Slim

I have yet to see a Pied or and Albino that I thought was boring...

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I agree!

Im the type of guy that would never buy a 2 and 3 gene animal...i like to buy what it takes to breed them myself. Thats what I love about this hobby !!!!

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Bananas and Coral Glows are pretty pricey for a boring snake then.

I too have yet to find an Albino or Pied boring.

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Originally Posted by Reddog

Im the type of guy that would never buy a 2 and 3 gene animal...i like to buy what it takes to breed them myself. Thats what I love about this hobby !!!!

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I have 1.0 Bee and 1.2 100% het Clowns, just to see what might happen.

That's about as far out on the limb as I'll go.

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I'm very new at this. I think the fun and enjoyment is taking your single gene collection, and making it the way you want. Starting with 2,3,4 gene is fine, but you didn't make them. Making your single genes into 2-4 gene, and saying you produced that, now that's called an accomplishment. Anyone can buy it, but making it is a whole new ball game. I'm excited to have my single genes, and to see where I can take it in the next few years.

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Originally Posted by MasonC2K

Bananas and Coral Glows are pretty pricey for a boring snake then.

I too have yet to find an Albino or Pied boring.

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Are they single gene?

Wow.

:O

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Originally Posted by 4Ballz

I'm very new at this. I think the fun and enjoyment is taking your single gene collection, and making it the way you want. Starting with 2,3,4 gene is fine, but you didn't make them. Making your single genes into 2-4 gene, and saying you produced that, now that's called an accomplishment. Anyone can buy it, but making it is a whole new ball game. I'm excited to have my single genes, and to see where I can take it in the next few years.

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It's like buying a "custom" Harley off the showroom floor.

If you didn't customize it, is it really a "custom"?

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Originally Posted by Reddog

Im the type of guy that would never buy a 2 and 3 gene animal...i like to buy what it takes to breed them myself. Thats what I love about this hobby !!!!

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x1,000!!!!

I do not share the same philosophy. Like some others have said it's quality over quantity when it comes to genes. There are many normals and pastels (for example) that blow single or double gene BPs out of the water.

To each their own.

However I for one completely disagree with you. I have 3 completely normal females in my collection. However, one of those normals was selected for extreme lightness, and when bred to my vanilla male, produced offspring that were lighter and brighter than the vanilla pastels another breeder produced. He took his snakes to 5 shows before they sold, even though he had them very reasonably priced. Mine sold at the first show I took them to.

This season, my biggest normal female, who carries a lot of blushing, was bred to my fire male. And even though her babies have another month before they hatch, any fires that hatch are already sold. Just from the pictures of her and him, people are lined up to get her babies, because people recognize they should be excellent representations of the morph.

Two gene animals can be very nice that is true, but they can also be as poor or poorer than a single gene. I've seen Fireflies that were just as browned out as most Pastels, which results when people just throw any two animals together without considering the quality. I've seen Bumblebees I could barely tell apart from a Spider. I've also seen one Bumblebee who was so spectacular I would have sworn it was at least a three or four gene animal.

I've seen NERD stuff in person. Most people oooooh, and aaaaah over their 4 and 5 and 6 gene stuff. You wanna know something? I saw plenty of multi-multi gene stuff that was no more interesting than most normals. So what if it's a 6 gene first-of-it's-kind, if the snake is about as interesting to look at as drying paint. I saw a handful of single gene snakes at Tinely Park I had to back up and look at twice, and some of those multi gene snakes I barely glanced at.

Gale