Starter Morph Selection

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Originally Posted by Birt

Ok, But the first Pastave with a normal would have 25% chance of pastel, so that could branch off into a non wiping of the patterns with that. Then, work on Mojave's, Pastel's, and Pastave's together for Supers and BUL. Just my ideas.

Seems like the pastave would allow for the most options and only require me to pick up a spider down the road for my FAV Bee's. But, the het ghost can get me some Ghost Spiders and Ghost's so I just have to get a pastel for a bunch of combos.

I Guess I'm torn between those 2 options. It seems either way i will have to get a pastel or a spider down the road.

I appreciate your feedback : )

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it would be 50% could be pastel for breeding the Pastave to the Normal as well as 50% could be Mojave. Am I messing this up? :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by bkelley02

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it would be 50% could be pastel for breeding the Pastave to the Normal as well as 50% could be Mojave. Am I messing this up? :rolleye2:

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no, it would be 25% because the other 25% of the 50% of pastels and Mojaves would be Pastave

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Originally Posted by bkelley02

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it would be 50% could be pastel for breeding the Pastave to the Normal as well as 50% could be Mojave. Am I messing this up? :rolleye2:

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HAHA beat me by seconds!

OK, so I have now found several Bumble Bees in my price range.

SO ...

Pastave
or
Bumble Bee

I would go with the Pastave, Bees are everywhere... plus I think that a Mojave is more valuable than a spider.

But again it is up to what you want to work with. You really can't go wrong.

I'd pick up a bumble bee female now, and then later when she's just about big enough to breed start looking for a killer pastave male. That'd just about cover all the stuff you said you like.

Realize with the pastave that you need to raise it to adulthood, breed it, hope you get a mojave female, raise that to breeding weight, and then breed it to your male again to get yourself a BEL. That's a 4+ year adventure, and if you can tack on another year each time the RNG gods don't produce you a female mojave. I guarantee you end up buying a BEL or a fem mojave before then :)

I'd look at more direct results instead. Would you prefer spiders and pastels or mojaves and pastels? On a single morph basis, you're going to get more bang for your buck out of the pastaves right now. I've seen a few nice pastave male hatchlings at the 350-500 mark and I got my male bumble bee for 300. The extra 100 bucks you put out now is going to return you 100 dollars an egg on the other end. When you breed them out - you can make supers with the pastels and mojaves but not with the spider. That's another thing I'd consider.

My 2nd male will likely be a pastave or a lesser pastel.

OK. I was looking at it as you would have Pastel in 50% (potentially ) of the offspring. Not just 25% being straight Pastel. My bad.

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Originally Posted by Birt

Hey Everyone,

I already have a normal female, and I am wanting to get a male morph to start breeding down the road.

I am wanting to spend about $400 tops.

I have found 3 snakes around my price range and have been playing with all kinds of options way down the road with the Genetic Wizard.

MY choices are

Pastave
or
Spider Het Ghost
or
Spider Het Albino

I was just wanting some advice on which would be best and make the most combos.

I personally love the spiders going to ghosts then all of the Bee morphs. But, that would require me to pick up a pastel.

I have found the Pastave will have the most options and eventually lead to a Blue Eyed Lucy, and would require me to get spider down the road for all the Bee's and I could have alot more to play with with the Co-Doms.

Also the Spider het Albino could make some cool stuff and I would still have to buy a pastel down the road to get some Bee's.

And thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated.:D

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I don't like to say that one morph is a better starter morph than another because to me a "starter" animal is one that is easier to care for than another. All morphs in BP's are just like the others as far as care goes. So if you know how genetics work, and know how to properly care for a BP then your "starter" could be whatever your wallet can take. Your first snake could be a $100 Pastel or a $2,000 Champagne, it'll be the same.

I'd stay away from hets since you only have a normal female, so w.e you produce won't be a guaranteed het. Which could make breeding projects a lot longer and more disappointing. I'd stick to co-doms.

As for the bee thing. You can buy a male Bumblebee under $400 and make more bees with just the normal girl. The Pastave sounds good too. But the option for a bee is out of the question there.

My only concern with any of the het choices are this - Are you going to keep and be responsible for every baby born? Selling Hets when you are new to the "Ball Game" is very very hard unless you just sell them as normals.

My vote would be to start with the visuals! And then your first eggs could all be different! And I second the opinion of getting another female and start raising her before you decide on a male. A pastel with some size or a mojo or even a yellowbelly or a spider are all in your price range and you will be a year or two close to making babies.

Again just my .02!!!!!